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Post by levine on May 22, 2024 8:03:46 GMT -6
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Post by XRaySpecs on May 22, 2024 10:29:29 GMT -6
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Post by BIG BAD WOLF on May 22, 2024 13:06:04 GMT -6
Charles Barkley used to be bullish on MIN wining the DAL series. He just changed his tune... he thinks DAL is a bad matchup for MIN and they will win the series.
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Post by Scorched on May 22, 2024 13:19:26 GMT -6
Charles Barkley used to be bullish on MIN wining the DAL series. He just changed his tune... he thinks DAL is a bad matchup for MIN and they will win the series. That's good news, Charles is an idiot that barely watches or knows anything about basketball.
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Post by RAHchills on May 22, 2024 16:01:23 GMT -6
Tim Legler is all in on Dallas as well… Timberwolves basketball will have a chance to upset nearly all of his favorites to win it this year if they are able to go all the way. Go Wolves. www.reddit.com/r/timberwolves/s/cB3u2Pv3pR
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Post by kingsxman on May 22, 2024 20:13:08 GMT -6
Wolves relying too much on 3s. Dallas getting anything that they want in the paint. I'm worried.
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Post by BIG BAD WOLF on May 22, 2024 20:17:02 GMT -6
MIN will lose this one! They are too cavalier with the ball. They will drop fourth quarter by at least ten… DAL is good!
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Post by Nick K on May 22, 2024 21:06:33 GMT -6
I'm not impressed with Dallas. I'm impressed with Luka but we played like sh+t. Their stars stepped up...ours didn't. Wasted great game by McD. What a shame.
Where is NAW? Who is NAW?
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Post by araxen on May 22, 2024 21:08:43 GMT -6
If Ant isn't going to attack the basket, this series is over. We should have won that game.
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Post by Bonecrusher on May 22, 2024 21:11:16 GMT -6
This will hopefully wake up the team. I think they thought it was going to be an easy win. Hell alot of people thought it would be. They have Kyrie and Doncic, who else steps up? When you have Kyle Anderson shooting 3's you've got problems. What a shame.
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Post by kingsxman on May 22, 2024 21:19:41 GMT -6
Wolves relying too much on 3s. Dallas getting anything that they want in the paint. I'm worried. Let me just put this right here again.
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Post by kingsxman on May 22, 2024 21:24:33 GMT -6
I'm not impressed with Dallas. I'm impressed with Luka but we played like sh+t. Their stars stepped up...ours didn't. Wasted great game by McD. What a shame.
Where is NAW? Who is NAW?
KAT played a hellova game. Not sure what was up with Ant but something was up. It was so obvious he was avoiding going to the basket for some reason. Not sure if he's hurt or what but its troubling no matter what. McD plays great and NAZ played pretty well. Kyle Anderson plays a hellova game. No, this game is on Ant and the coaching staff. We had the ref that lets us get by with ANYTHING tonight also. Not a good sign at all. Dallas wasnt hitting 3's. You think Dallas shoots this poorly all series? You think we dont get some tighter whistles? We are the better team. But...Dallas was the better team tonight and the way this went the Wolves have got some shit to figure out or this series isnt going to 5 and it wont be us moving on.
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Post by kingsxman on May 22, 2024 21:26:40 GMT -6
If Ant isn't going to attack the basket, this series is over. We should have won that game. yep. As i just said...literally everything was in our favor and tilted our way. Although someone will have to explain to me what I'm missing with that basket interference call on KAT. The ball was obviously NOT in the cylinder. When he grabbed it it was OUT of the cylinder. How is that basket interference?
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Post by jojo on May 23, 2024 5:56:17 GMT -6
Doesn’t surprise me they lost. They’ve got some things to figure out with this team. 3 point shooting kept them in it but they need a better plan for Kyrie and to keep the Mavs off the glass. They should go zone in non- Rudy minutes and think about playing Monte some to get more ball movement.
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Post by tmirvin on May 23, 2024 6:14:39 GMT -6
If Ant isn't going to attack the basket, this series is over. We should have won that game. yep. As i just said...literally everything was in our favor and tilted our way. Although someone will have to explain to me what I'm missing with that basket interference call on KAT. The ball was obviously NOT in the cylinder. When he grabbed it it was OUT of the cylinder. How is that basket interference? My interpretation is that had kat (or anyone) not touched the ball, it may have hit the rim again. Thus, making it basket interference. It was really close and absolutely would have grazed the rim and NOT gone in (but that doesn't matter). In realtime, it looked good to me. The replay from above is where I could possibly see it hitting the rim again.
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Post by Bonecrusher on May 23, 2024 7:06:45 GMT -6
I'm not impressed with Dallas. I'm impressed with Luka but we played like sh+t. Their stars stepped up...ours didn't. Wasted great game by McD. What a shame. Where is NAW? Who is NAW?
KAT played a hellova game. Not sure what was up with Ant but something was up. It was so obvious he was avoiding going to the basket for some reason. Not sure if he's hurt or what but its troubling no matter what. McD plays great and NAZ played pretty well. Kyle Anderson plays a hellova game. No, this game is on Ant and the coaching staff. We had the ref that lets us get by with ANYTHING tonight also. Not a good sign at all. Dallas wasnt hitting 3's. You think Dallas shoots this poorly all series? You think we dont get some tighter whistles? We are the better team. But...Dallas was the better team tonight and the way this went the Wolves have got some shit to figure out or this series isnt going to 5 and it wont be us moving on. Not sure what game you were watching but I saw KAT and Ant drive to the rim more than once and absolutely get mugged and then to see Conley backing away from Kyrie and hardly touching him get a foul called on him. Same with Doncic. They drove to the rim and the slightest contact was a whistle. This is the shit I'm sick of.
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Post by jr on May 23, 2024 7:51:35 GMT -6
I'm not impressed with Dallas. I'm impressed with Luka but we played like sh+t. Their stars stepped up...ours didn't. Wasted great game by McD. What a shame.
Where is NAW? Who is NAW?
KAT played a hellova game. Not sure what was up with Ant but something was up. It was so obvious he was avoiding going to the basket for some reason. Not sure if he's hurt or what but its troubling no matter what. McD plays great and NAZ played pretty well. Kyle Anderson plays a hellova game. No, this game is on Ant and the coaching staff. We had the ref that lets us get by with ANYTHING tonight also. Not a good sign at all. Dallas wasnt hitting 3's. You think Dallas shoots this poorly all series? You think we dont get some tighter whistles? We are the better team. But...Dallas was the better team tonight and the way this went the Wolves have got some shit to figure out or this series isnt going to 5 and it wont be us moving on. The announcers said many times that the drop coverage we (Rudy) do doesn't work with Luca or/and Kyrie. One time they said it the very next play showed it not working. Those guys are too good following the D down deep and then dumping it off when coverage moves to the ball handler. I also hated how the announcers talk as if they want Dallas to win. All praise for the mavs' play...
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Post by kingsxman on May 23, 2024 8:06:44 GMT -6
yep. As i just said...literally everything was in our favor and tilted our way. Although someone will have to explain to me what I'm missing with that basket interference call on KAT. The ball was obviously NOT in the cylinder. When he grabbed it it was OUT of the cylinder. How is that basket interference? My interpretation is that had kat (or anyone) not touched the ball, it may have hit the rim again. Thus, making it basket interference. It was really close and absolutely would have grazed the rim and NOT gone in (but that doesn't matter). In realtime, it looked good to me. The replay from above is where I could possibly see it hitting the rim again. ok, so thats the point of contention that I didnt understand. My understanding was if more than half the ball is outside of the cylinder then its fair play. It was outside of the cylinder when kat grabbed it and stuff it in. But it sounds like you're saying that if the ball is allowed to naturally fall....if it would hit any part of the rim it would be still "IN" the cylinder. I could see where possibly that ball may have grazed the rim if allowed to fall. That said....no one would have challenged that play had they not called it. I see plays like this all the time.
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Post by XRaySpecs on May 23, 2024 8:51:16 GMT -6
Wasting Jaden and Kyle's hot shooting (while Dallas shot horribly from 3) is likely going to haunt us.
I had seen something about how statistically teams in the Wolves position who are coming off a game 7 with a rest disadvantage don't fare well in game 1s. Dallas just had more energy. We collectively didn't. Ant said as much.
Jaden was on fire. Unfortunately the hot shooting probably got him riding too high as he had 3 costly TOs down the stretch. He was great though.
Rudy was good defensively compared to any of our other bigs, but it wasn't his best game. He owned Lively in earlier matchups, but Lively looked like the more impactful player overall in game 1. Lively has improved a lot and quickly. I remember thinking how overmatched Lively looked in those 2 preseason games vs. Rudy.
Ant didn't have energy, but he also was just flat out hesitant to challenge their rim protectors. The difference in how to challenge rim protectors between Ant and Conley vs Luka is striking. Luka is effective because he's such a good lob thrower while also being having the main threat of being a finisher. Ant can get to the rim, but since he hasn't learned how to manipulate the 2 man game with space and skill to throw lobs, he really only has 1 option (directly challenging the shot blocker) and he didn't want to take it. Conley on the other hand has the skill and willingness to throw the lob to Rudy, but his issue is that it's so clear that the lob is the priority that they sag off him. Younger Mike could finish floaters better, but older Mike doesn't finish as well (and knows it so doesn't try as much). Ant has commented about knowing when there are shot blockers out there and it's clear he needs to develop the ability to deal with them more effectively. Until he has better craft as a tight area passer like Luka does, Ant won't have a full arsenal to deal with different teams. PHX and Denver didn't have a shot blocker.
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Post by XRaySpecs on May 23, 2024 8:52:38 GMT -6
The announcers said many times that the drop coverage we (Rudy) do doesn't work with Luca or/and Kyrie. One time they said it the very next play showed it not working. I believe after the game Conley said that they weren't supposed to be in drop. Dane Moore highlighted it saying that if you saw draw it was a mistake compared to the game plan.
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Post by tmirvin on May 23, 2024 8:55:12 GMT -6
My interpretation is that had kat (or anyone) not touched the ball, it may have hit the rim again. Thus, making it basket interference. It was really close and absolutely would have grazed the rim and NOT gone in (but that doesn't matter). In realtime, it looked good to me. The replay from above is where I could possibly see it hitting the rim again. ok, so thats the point of contention that I didnt understand. My understanding was if more than half the ball is outside of the cylinder then its fair play. It was outside of the cylinder when kat grabbed it and stuff it in. But it sounds like you're saying that if the ball is allowed to naturally fall....if it would hit any part of the rim it would be still "IN" the cylinder. I could see where possibly that ball may have grazed the rim if allowed to fall. That said....no one would have challenged that play had they not called it. I see plays like this all the time. Now that you mention your understanding, I do remember that being the interpretation of the rule. Unless it was changed in the last few years. I will say this, if a Dallas player grabbed the ball in the exact same spot where kat did for and defensive rebound - I call goaltending.
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Post by XRaySpecs on May 23, 2024 8:57:26 GMT -6
Dallas is good, but it was clear to me that they had the energy advantage. They didn't shoot the 3 well, but I think we'll match their energy going forward with the every other format going forward. Luka made plays in down the stretch, but can he maintain the pace? He didn't look that great before he made that run at then end. Kyrie had his best game since round 1. He's been up and down. The Wolves are 3-3 at home in the playoffs, 5-1 on the road. We'll come back with more energy for game 2 and then get one in Dallas!
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Post by tmirvin on May 23, 2024 8:57:46 GMT -6
KAT played a hellova game. Not sure what was up with Ant but something was up. It was so obvious he was avoiding going to the basket for some reason. Not sure if he's hurt or what but its troubling no matter what. McD plays great and NAZ played pretty well. Kyle Anderson plays a hellova game. No, this game is on Ant and the coaching staff. We had the ref that lets us get by with ANYTHING tonight also. Not a good sign at all. Dallas wasnt hitting 3's. You think Dallas shoots this poorly all series? You think we dont get some tighter whistles? We are the better team. But...Dallas was the better team tonight and the way this went the Wolves have got some shit to figure out or this series isnt going to 5 and it wont be us moving on. The announcers said many times that the drop coverage we (Rudy) do doesn't work with Luca or/and Kyrie. One time they said it the very next play showed it not working. Those guys are too good following the D down deep and then dumping it off when coverage moves to the ball handler. I also hated how the announcers talk as if they want Dallas to win. All praise for the mavs' play... The announcers also said later in the game that they understood the reason the wolves were running the drop coverage and it was to take away the 3 point shot.
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Post by XRaySpecs on May 23, 2024 8:59:13 GMT -6
That said....no one would have challenged that play had they not called it. I see plays like this all the time. I don't think you can challenge a non call like that, but I get what you're saying. It was a close call. A "subtle" call if you will.
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Post by tmirvin on May 23, 2024 9:03:40 GMT -6
KAT played a hellova game. Not sure what was up with Ant but something was up. It was so obvious he was avoiding going to the basket for some reason. Not sure if he's hurt or what but its troubling no matter what. McD plays great and NAZ played pretty well. Kyle Anderson plays a hellova game. No, this game is on Ant and the coaching staff. We had the ref that lets us get by with ANYTHING tonight also. Not a good sign at all. Dallas wasnt hitting 3's. You think Dallas shoots this poorly all series? You think we dont get some tighter whistles? We are the better team. But...Dallas was the better team tonight and the way this went the Wolves have got some shit to figure out or this series isnt going to 5 and it wont be us moving on. Not sure what game you were watching but I saw KAT and Ant drive to the rim more than once and absolutely get mugged and then to see Conley backing away from Kyrie and hardly touching him get a foul called on him. Same with Doncic. They drove to the rim and the slightest contact was a whistle. This is the shit I'm sick of. 100% percent agree and ant won't get their whistle until the entire country knows who he is (so probably next year). That play where ant drove, got fouled but they didn't call it and said it was wolves ball. That seemed to me to be one of those old school calls where they missed the foul and did an instant make up call by saying it was wolves ball. Then Dallas challenged it and got the ball because it went off ant last. I wish the NBA would allow for the officials to review the replay and say yes the ball was of ant, but he was fouled so he gets 2 shots. If you're going to review a play, the might as review all of it and get the proper call for the entire sequence. This would lower the amount of reviews. It's not a good look for the NBA to have 3-4 calls reviewed every game that are clearly incorrect. Lastly, this deep in the playoffs be like the NFL and have off-site officials review the play and relay to call to the in-game officials to keep the game moving along.
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