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Post by levine on Feb 2, 2024 13:45:52 GMT -6
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Post by kingsxman on Feb 2, 2024 15:45:57 GMT -6
Not good on Gobert. I really want the Wolves to win this as I believe if they do, the coaches get to coach the all star game. The reality is Finch probably could care less but I'm guessing it would be a nice perk for the rest of the group.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Feb 2, 2024 17:19:42 GMT -6
Not good on Gobert. I really want the Wolves to win this as I believe if they do, the coaches get to coach the all star game. The reality is Finch probably could care less but I'm guessing it would be a nice perk for the rest of the group. Gobert would hurt vs. a team as big as Orlando, but with Wendell Carter back, maybe it's less impactful? Carter shoots 3s pretty well which could hurt Rudy. Carter isn't a great rebounder so maybe KAT would be ok vs him and then Kyle or Naz could take Wagner? Jaden did so well on Paulo last time that I doubt we'd go away from that. Still...not having Rudy would hurt the team D so much.
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Post by Nick K on Feb 2, 2024 18:28:35 GMT -6
Not good on Gobert. I really want the Wolves to win this as I believe if they do, the coaches get to coach the all star game. The reality is Finch probably could care less but I'm guessing it would be a nice perk for the rest of the group. Yep. If the Timberwolves win tonight, Chris Finch will be an automatic bid to coach the all star team for the west.
Huge game and the players know it.
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Post by levine on Feb 2, 2024 18:41:56 GMT -6
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Post by Nick K on Feb 2, 2024 21:16:04 GMT -6
How many layup, bunnies can Slo-Mo miss every night around the basket? I've seen him miss 4 for sure tonight. Every miss is like a turnover. How many great defensive plays does it take to make up for that? He doesn't make any where near enough. I'd move him if at all possible.
It's tied at the 7 min mark of the 4th. If we blow this one.....
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Post by XRaySpecs on Feb 2, 2024 21:29:28 GMT -6
How many layup, bunnies can Slo-Mo miss every night around the basket? I've seen him miss 4 for sure tonight. Every miss is like a turnover. How many great defensive plays does it take to make up for that? He doesn't make any where near enough. I'd move him if at all possible. It's tied at the 7 min mark of the 4th. If we blow this one..... He's 3 for 6.
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Post by Nick K on Feb 2, 2024 21:31:05 GMT -6
We throw another one away at home up by 17 in the 1st half. We shoot 4 of 18 in the 4th. McD with the critical reach in foul with seconds to go that just killed us. McD just can't help himself. He doesn't have a low BBIQ he has no BBIQ.
Worst loss of the year all things considered. I feel bad for the coaches.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Feb 2, 2024 21:32:39 GMT -6
Tough loss.
Jaden McDaniels continues to disappoint. He's just such a poor decision maker.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Feb 2, 2024 21:34:40 GMT -6
Conley played poorly tonight too. Shot was off and had some questionable decisions (relative to his usual).
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Post by Nick K on Feb 2, 2024 22:01:20 GMT -6
How many layup, bunnies can Slo-Mo miss every night around the basket? I've seen him miss 4 for sure tonight. Every miss is like a turnover. How many great defensive plays does it take to make up for that? He doesn't make any where near enough. I'd move him if at all possible. It's tied at the 7 min mark of the 4th. If we blow this one..... He's 3 for 6. I noticed that and I can't believe it. My eyes saw different. Regardless, he misses way too many.
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Post by Nick K on Feb 2, 2024 22:02:46 GMT -6
Conley played poorly tonight too. Shot was off and had some questionable decisions (relative to his usual). Yep. Mike had another bad game since his illness. Its the exception not the rule.
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Post by kingsxman on Feb 3, 2024 10:35:57 GMT -6
This story is getting old. I honestly think that Finch needs to pull Ant for the last few minutes or at some point in the 4th quarter to get through to him. (And hopefully he has vets and high BB iq players in there who will show what happens when the ball moves). Jaden.....sigh. Not sure whats going to get through to him.
Hitting my limit with watching us do the same shit night in and night out with no accountability.
BTW, kudos to Kat for getting up 7 - 3's. Too bad only 2 went in (one more and we win) but I'm glad he made the effort.
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Post by wunderwolf on Feb 3, 2024 10:59:28 GMT -6
what a waste of a great Gobert game where he was clearly motivated by the all star snub.
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Post by tmirvin on Feb 3, 2024 11:19:00 GMT -6
Tough loss. Jaden McDaniels continues to disappoint. He's just such a poor decision maker. Down 2 with about 30 some second left in the game when they inbounded. You either foul right away to try and extend the game or play defense and try to get a stop and one more offensive possession. McDaniel's fouled on purpose with 5 seconds left on the shot clock. Am I supposed to believe none of the coaches or other players were yelling "no fouls" after it became apparent they were going the "let's play defense route?" So he fouls, they make both free throws to go up by 4 with under 10 seconds left. Sure, it's a bone headed play by McDaniel's, but at this point the coaches have to know he's susceptible to making such mistakes. Either call a timeout to make sure everyone knows what to do or be in his ear to make sure he knows what to do. It's not like Finch needs to save his timeouts to draw up a last second play. He's terrible at drawing up out of bounds plays. They're better off letting the game just play out.
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Post by kingsxman on Feb 3, 2024 11:37:09 GMT -6
Tough loss. Jaden McDaniels continues to disappoint. He's just such a poor decision maker. Down 2 with about 30 some second left in the game when they inbounded. You either foul right away to try and extend the game or play defense and try to get a stop and one more offensive possession. McDaniel's fouled on purpose with 5 seconds left on the shot clock. Am I supposed to believe none of the coaches or other players were yelling "no fouls" after it became apparent they were going the "let's play defense route?" So he fouls, they make both free throws to go up by 4 with under 10 seconds left. Sure, it's a bone headed play by McDaniel's, but at this point the coaches have to know he's susceptible to making such mistakes. Either call a timeout to make sure everyone knows what to do or be in his ear to make sure he knows what to do. It's not like Finch needs to save his timeouts to draw up a last second play. He's terrible at drawing up out of bounds plays. They're better off letting the game just play out. The coaching staff has to take responsibility also for the repeated mistakes of the same ilk. Also, at this point I'd be closing games with NAW instead of Jaden. NAW has been the superiour player this year.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Feb 3, 2024 12:08:51 GMT -6
As far as accountability, how do we realistically expect that to happen when we have so many bad decision makers amongst our top players? Ant, KAT, Jaden, and Naz all have major issues at times with decision making. That's 3 of your 5 starters and 4 of your top 8. Bench your highest players? There wouldn't be any fallout from that???
I'm not giving Finch a pass as he's obviously not pushing the right buttons, but there's also a component of those players being naturally poor decision makers. Doesn't the one who puts the players together have to take some of the criticism at some point. Connelly has a good track record, but he also gave KAT a supermax before he really knew what kind of player he was through direct daily observation. He gave Jaden a huge contract after seeing him have repeated issues with decision making last year.
In the end I'm not really saying heads need to role. A lot NBA personnel stuff happens through inertia. Were we really not going to extend KAT before last season? Were we really not try to extend Jaden last summer? You tend to pay your guys. Where does that leave us? Well, I think we should prepare for frustration. Our future payroll is going to be dominated by guys who aren't great decision makers. It's going to mean lots of frustrating games as we have lots of talent to be right there or ahead in games only for the crucial parts of games to go against us as our collective decision making is exposed in the pressure cooker.
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Post by jojo on Feb 3, 2024 12:36:15 GMT -6
Another game you hope is part of the learning process. They lose the game to a decent team by 2 points because of fouls and bad decisions, to say nothing of technical. This was mainly on Ant and Jaden. Maybe they will start to get it eventually.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Feb 3, 2024 15:07:39 GMT -6
Another game you hope is part of the learning process. They lose the game to a decent team by 2 points because of fouls and bad decisions, to say nothing of technical. This was mainly on Ant and Jaden. Maybe they will start to get it eventually. Sure, but how many times should it take to learn that making 1 shot doesn't mean you're on fire and that you should dominate the ball the next 3 positions? Ant hitting a mid range jumper is one of the worst things that can happen at times because it means ball movement is over.
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Post by jojo on Feb 3, 2024 17:12:54 GMT -6
Sounds like Finch had an intense film session going over the 4th quarter with the team. Dane was tweeting some quotes afterward and he was saying that they have been playing like a .500 team for awhile, and that he’s at a breaking point. Basically said he was ready to take the ball out of Ant’s hands and let Mike run the offense in the fourth quarter. Finch likes to give guys enough rope to gang themselves and he certainly done that over the last month- they’ve been 9-9 since new years.
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