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Post by tmill720 on Apr 8, 2024 12:03:21 GMT -6
Chris Hine has a video of him shooting and light movement on his Twitter feed. I know it won't happen, but it would be great if KAT volunteered to come off the bench as he comes back. He's got the perfect cover to start slow and with how Naz is playing, it would be a team first way to approach this especially with where we are in the season. I would like to think that Finch may say it has to happen that way, but I doubt he will force it. I'm guessing KAT starts as soon as he's ready to play...even though that isnt how it should be handled. Starting is fine for optics, I just hope he doesn't close games or disrupt our offense. He can start and be the first sub out early on for "conditioning" reasons.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 9, 2024 15:26:12 GMT -6
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Post by kingsxman on Apr 10, 2024 7:11:40 GMT -6
Given how "late" the wolves usually are with these things...I wonder if he'll possible get some minutes tonight? I still wonder if he'll come off the bench when the time finally comes. I hope so.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 10, 2024 9:26:12 GMT -6
Given how "late" the wolves usually are with these things...I wonder if he'll possible get some minutes tonight? I still wonder if he'll come off the bench when the time finally comes. I hope so. Per Woj, he's not playing vs. Denver. Mentioned the Hawks or Suns game as the possible target.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 10, 2024 12:14:02 GMT -6
When KAT comes back, how will it effects minutes? Will Finch try to go with 10? That's tough.
Morris has been good for us, but how can you bench JMac at this point? He's been just awesome. If he keeps hitting 3s, how we keep him on the bench?
Kyle will play fewer minutes and I think Jaden could have some cut too. Play Naz at the 3!
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Post by levine on Apr 10, 2024 14:50:26 GMT -6
Maybe Glen isn't the villain in this story?
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Post by quinn on Apr 10, 2024 14:52:12 GMT -6
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Post by quinn on Apr 10, 2024 14:56:42 GMT -6
I have no idea what to make of this at this point. I still think 2 things are true:
1. Lore and A-Rod do not have the money it takes to own and operate a team.
2. Glen snaked out of the deal because of the massive increase in valuation.
We're already projected to be $14 million over the tax next year. That's before Ant's supermax, our draft picks, and filling out the rest of the roster.
Cutting to $171 million would require complete overhaul of everything they've built.
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Post by kingsxman on Apr 10, 2024 15:24:53 GMT -6
When KAT comes back, how will it effects minutes? Will Finch try to go with 10? That's tough. Morris has been good for us, but how can you bench JMac at this point? He's been just awesome. If he keeps hitting 3s, how we keep him on the bench? Kyle will play fewer minutes and I think Jaden could have some cut too. Play Naz at the 3! I agree 100%. I dont think we make a comeback last night without Jmac. His 3's have slowed down a bit but his playmaking and hustle get EVERYONE going. In fact, I wasnt sure they should have let him sit DOWN last night.
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Post by levine on Apr 10, 2024 15:28:32 GMT -6
I have no idea what to make of this at this point. I still think 2 things are true: 1. Lore and A-Rod do not have the money it takes to own and operate a team.
2. Glen snaked out of the deal because of the massive increase in valuation.
We're already projected to be $14 million over the tax next year. That's before Ant's supermax, our draft picks, and filling out the rest of the roster. Cutting to $171 million would require complete overhaul of everything they've built. I agree with this completely. Lore and ARod with Glen's money would be close to perfect...
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Post by kingsxman on Apr 10, 2024 15:29:53 GMT -6
Just to make sure I understand: we're talking below the Luxury Tax, not just below the 2nd apron. If thats the case.....dont let the door hit you in the ass Lo-Rod.
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Post by araxen on Apr 10, 2024 16:38:29 GMT -6
It doesn't make any sense. We are going to be in the luxury tax even if we do trade KAT. It just seems like Glen PR bullshit.
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Post by levine on Apr 10, 2024 17:10:56 GMT -6
It doesn't make any sense. We are going to be in the luxury tax even if we do trade KAT. It just seems like Glen PR bullshit. So these documents don't exist? Glen made it up?
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Post by jojo on Apr 10, 2024 18:05:20 GMT -6
It wouldn’t be surprising although I wouldn’t trust a vague report without details. Everyone knows the only way to avoid tax is to trade KAT but would require receiving team to absorb salary. I’d guess it was more of a statement of intent rather than a firm proposal since they can’t know what exact trade they’d make. But it certainly makes sense financially to move him. But just moving KAT in itself wouldn’t keep the team from competing- they’ve been doing fine without him.? That part probably is Glen PR bullshit. What Glen is upset that they want to keep from paying $100 million in luxury tax?
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Post by Nick K on Apr 10, 2024 19:37:11 GMT -6
I'm very suspect of this leak. It smells like another underhanded Glen trick to me. Could he be desperate?
The other thing is I don't believe for a minute Glen pays the huge penalty either.
My wish is this goes to arbitration and we get an answer one way or another, soon
Lastly, I have no concern whatsoever the Lo/Rod group doesn't have the money to run the club. They have plenty.
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Post by levine on Apr 10, 2024 19:53:18 GMT -6
I wish I had as much faith in LoRod as you do.
I think Lore has a lot of PR Barnum in him…
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Post by Nick K on Apr 10, 2024 20:48:50 GMT -6
I wish I had as much faith in LoRod as you do. I think Lore has a lot of PR Barnum in him… I'm not seeing that. I could be wrong. Every once in a while I get fooled.
David, I've spent most of my adult life in the financial business. Stock broker, Futures trader-advisor, Municipal bond financing and Life insurance.
I don't pretend to know everything but I know how money works and how these deals get put together. From the people I've talked to in the know, they tell me Lore is legit, so I believe them. He is an extremely bright talented financial guy. He's really a visionary type guy and his instincts have been remarkable. From what I've been able to tell BOTH Arod and Lore are honorable people. If I had any solid evidence to the contrary I'd say so.
Plus, the two limited partners that came on board have very deep pockets. The Dyal group who the NBA has already approved and the huge whale in the deal is former Google CEO Eric Schmidt. Forbes has his net worth at 24 BILLION. Check him out.
I get it, some people just don't like them for whatever reason. That's life.
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Post by levine on Apr 10, 2024 21:08:55 GMT -6
And how big of a stake does Schmidt have in the team?
I doubt he’s going to be writing checks to cover luxury tax payments.
Lore is a smart guy. He builds businesses that are competitors to bigger companies with the intent of being bought out.
It’s smart, but is he looking to do the same and essentially “flip” the Wolves in a year or two for a huge gain?
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Post by Nick K on Apr 10, 2024 21:28:05 GMT -6
And how big of a stake does Schmidt have in the team? I doubt he’s going to be writing checks to cover luxury tax payments. Lore is a smart guy. He builds businesses that are competitors to bigger companies with the intent of being bought out. It’s smart, but is he looking to do the same and essentially “flip” the Wolves in a year or two for a huge gain? I believe Schmidt's has 300 million in the team if approved which is pocket change for him.
"I doubt he’s going to be writing checks to cover luxury tax payments." Why not? He can provide loans if he chooses.
"He builds businesses that are competitors to bigger companies with the intent of being bought out." .......Welcome to the world of big business! That's how it's done. Do you realize the talent it takes to come up with an idea, get it off the ground and be so successful that you can sell it to someone else for hundreds of millions?
"but is he looking to do the same and essentially “flip” the Wolves in a year or two for a huge gain?"
It makes zero sense Lore flips the Wolves in a couple of years. Come on David. I'll remind you Glen bought it and eventually flipped it.....maybe not. :)
Owning a sports franchise has been a lifelong dream for both Lore and Arod. I believe they will own the team for years and keep it here.
The huge risk is if Glen dies in the next few years or develops senility that his estate sells the team to get out from under it and the team is moved. I'd worry about that.
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Post by levine on Apr 10, 2024 21:34:59 GMT -6
So Schmidt owns more of the Wolves than Lore or ARod???
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Post by jojo on Apr 10, 2024 21:35:00 GMT -6
It’s a PR battle at this point. I’m guessing A-Lore sits this round out. Like Nicks point about the leak showing a little desperation on Glens side. Jon K says prepare for a long battle. Looks like NBA is content to let it play out.
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Post by Nick K on Apr 10, 2024 21:59:28 GMT -6
So Schmidt owns more of the Wolves than Lore or ARod??? Look it up.
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Post by kingsxman on Apr 11, 2024 6:48:22 GMT -6
It doesn't make any sense. We are going to be in the luxury tax even if we do trade KAT. It just seems like Glen PR bullshit. So these documents don't exist? Glen made it up? My guess is that this was not "THE" plan, but one of a few possible plans that they had to put forward on how to manage the team. And Glen just picked one of these out and leaked it. That said, if it IS true....it would be a huge red flag. The more I think about it, I dont think its true or what their plan is. If their end goal is to get a new stadium (and put in requisite infrastructure around it that they can make money on) the LAST thing they'd do is start being cheap the first year they owned the team. That makes no sense. I do not believe that they were going to flip the team. I do believe that they are committed to keeping it here as this is a huge, underserved NBA market. That said, I trust Glens desire to keep the team here MORE than Lo-Rods.
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Post by Bonecrusher on Apr 11, 2024 6:54:05 GMT -6
I'm very suspect of this leak. It smells like another underhanded Glen trick to me. Could he be desperate? The other thing is I don't believe for a minute Glen pays the huge penalty either. My wish is this goes to arbitration and we get an answer one way or another, soon Lastly, I have no concern whatsoever the Lo/Rod group doesn't have the money to run the club. They have plenty. There was an article yesterday or maybe the day previous of the contract Lore and A-Rod signed with Glen and if something happens arbitration was to occur by a third party and that is where we are. The ESPN article was about Silver threatening to permanently ban the Toronto player betting on basketball and it was a secondary question about the Wolves.
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Post by Bonecrusher on Apr 11, 2024 7:00:23 GMT -6
It doesn't state though what their idea was to lower the salary from $172 to less. One thing I am pretty sure about is Glen is in over his head. If its true that he gave A-Rod and Lore permission to talk with Connelly because no one big would come to the Wolves tells me he just accepts what he think he can get instead of going out there and trying. In the NBA that is terrible. Go and get the best. I just think Glen is a snake in the grass. A-Rod and Lore have the money but it isn't theirs. It would be a big joint venture and the more "owners" the more complications arise.
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