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Post by darko on Nov 14, 2023 12:18:31 GMT -6
Looks like Morey is coming out of the Harden deal smelling of roses. Morey Media did their job and it's bogus. I will say that's just for now though, Harden stuff still might bare losing picks.
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Post by darko on Nov 14, 2023 12:37:24 GMT -6
Mexico City, and Vancouver would be cool, but probably don't make as much as Seattle/Vegas, given we just created the new mid season Vegas cup. Again this would have been a great opportunity to think about quality, versus come up with a gimmick ahead of new TV deal, and pum up sports betting. We're adding games, and probably will with two new teams, no? All of this is the league pretending the last decade (built to lose era) didn't happen.
I really hope there's someone that cares about making a good product again post Silver.
On the Celtics-Knicks broadcast, Adam Silver once again all but confirmed the NBA will expand after the new TV deal is done. Silver talked about a “couple of cities in the US”, but mentioned Mexico City and Vancouver, and possibly Montreal (who he said has reached out to the NBA), as other cities the league has interest in. – via Twitter KeithSmithNBA
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Post by darko on Nov 14, 2023 13:36:50 GMT -6
LaVine and Bulls open to a deal.
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Post by levine on Nov 14, 2023 13:42:30 GMT -6
LaVine and Bulls open to a deal. Bulls should be. Their roster construction is terrible and they can probably find a team that way overvalues Zach.
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Post by darko on Nov 14, 2023 14:55:02 GMT -6
Bulls should be. Their roster construction is terrible and they can probably find a team that way overvalues Zach. I haven't watched so difficult to diagnose. They were great that first season until they got decimated by injuries which if you listen to the main heads they conveniently ignore. What comes to mind those is a conversation Steve Kerr had one time, talking about Miami Heat when they first got together, about how it's easier to have one initiator, and this was pre-FOM versus LeBron and Wade alternating. I think we saw that with the three headed monster of Ant, Lo, Kat. If it were me I would probably have DeRozan 6th man, and try to get more complimentary pieces in that first unit. I also don't think Billy Donovan does teams he's coached any favors. Seems like they also had a big there that was maybe a better fit next to Vuch than Williams is turning out to be. How are they generating shots, and how are they defending, and you have to solve for both first and second units. Zach's much more of a traditional two, pure scorer, that is likely more effective coming off screens, than any kind of initiating. Rubio, LaVine, Wigs, and the Kat man would have been tight. Turn Dieng and Bazz into Iblocka. I'm really trying to limit my intake of modern NBA games because all the clanking makes me gassy. Outside of watching the Wolves I've been on a heater with anything I can find on Youtube, which there's some decent 15-16 full games on there.
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Post by tmill720 on Nov 14, 2023 14:57:43 GMT -6
LaVine and Bulls open to a deal. Have heard so many KAT to the Warriors rumors over the years as well, it's like league execs are trying to create the alternate universe where we don't do the Jimmy Butler deal. Can we get Kris Dunn to the Warriors too?
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Post by darko on Nov 14, 2023 15:07:48 GMT -6
GS/Morey media will for sure do everything in their power to S.O.Steph. There is never a name they are not deemed "a good fit" for.
Kat, Giannis, Wemby would surprisingly, all be great fits for that team I hear.
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Post by darko on Nov 14, 2023 15:17:45 GMT -6
The interesting thing about the Warriors is what are they trying to mend? It's how to generate good shots, and defense. It isn't really scoring, but they are kind of hamstrung to the way they have to use Steph.
I have always been interested to see Steph movement shoot in other O, particularly where guys setting screens for him aren't pushing guys feet off the play, but also more like how Wolves used Malik, that is what he's doing, it's just coming off of different screen actions that keep him moving.
The talk was them threading the two needle timelines, but there is such a thing as one style of O maximizes Steph, and like playing with Luka, or any ball dominant initiator, it's not exactly plug and play. I would think much of their roster would benefit from like a Willie Green O, or Monty, but then again, we've proven you really can't have Steph play point guard either, so bit of a conundrum.
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Post by darko on Nov 14, 2023 15:22:07 GMT -6
If they're trying to recreate the splash bro's, a guy like Duncan Robinson is sort of what they could use, but he's no Klay on D, and teams should absolutely lay way off of Dray take away his driving, who unlike Ant has no midrange or three. Seems like there was one season he shot three's ok maybe LeBron's chip year? But he should be handled like Westbrook was for sure, make he and Steph take all the shots.
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Post by darko on Nov 17, 2023 14:51:48 GMT -6
Suns star Bradley Beal will be out and re-evaluated in three weeks as he continues to rehab a low back strain. – via Twitter ShamsCharania
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Post by darko on Nov 17, 2023 21:32:10 GMT -6
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Post by kingsxman on Nov 18, 2023 8:37:30 GMT -6
Suns star Bradley Beal will be out and re-evaluated in three weeks as he continues to rehab a low back strain. – via Twitter ShamsCharania I just cant believe Bradley Beal is injured. Oh wait a minute...yes I can.
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Post by kingsxman on Nov 18, 2023 8:46:09 GMT -6
Wow. The Oakland A's moving? Thats awful. I hadnt even heard this was a thing. (Because...you know....baseball..) This is why I will always be grateful for Glen. Even though he's been a relatively bad owner in many respects, it has ALWAYS been important that the team stay here. Which in the end...is one of most important things you can ask of any owner in any sport.
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Post by darko on Nov 18, 2023 17:45:04 GMT -6
Now all they need is an NBA team. Was thinking about the difference between baseball, and NBA teams moving cities, and seems like with MLB it’s more like corporate raiders that rip down to the studs, can’t get a new stadium etc.
NBA is a little different. Seattle not getting an arena moving to OKC with Westbrook and Durant theoretically on the rise but still tanking for Harden that season. Warriors moving from Oakland to San Fran, just coming out of their prime, losing KD, Klay coming off injuries.
What would be the better financial move for A-Rod, Lore, Vegas or Minny? What better way to create a new NBA fan base overnight than to bring someone like Antman to town. It is still interesting to me that around the league there continues to be talks in regards to questions about them making payments on time. If that’s the case, I would think a new arena would be even more of a ?
Bucks new stadium by the way is awesome, and if Wolves can pull that off, just makes the game more fun for fans up top. All these modern ones are built more straight up, really wouldn’t be a terrible seat in the house.
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Post by levine on Nov 18, 2023 20:10:54 GMT -6
Now all they need is an NBA team. Was thinking about the difference between baseball, and NBA teams moving cities, and seems like with MLB it’s more like corporate raiders that rip down to the studs, can’t get a new stadium etc.NBA is a little different. Seattle not getting an arena moving to OKC with Westbrook and Durant theoretically on the rise but still tanking for Harden that season. Warriors moving from Oakland to San Fran, just coming out of their prime, losing KD, Klay coming off injuries. What would be the better financial move for A-Rod, Lore, Vegas or Minny? What better way to create a new NBA fan base overnight than to bring someone like Antman to town. It is still interesting to me that around the league there continues to be talks in regards to questions about them making payments on time. If that’s the case, I would think a new arena would be even more of a ? Bucks new stadium by the way is awesome, and if Wolves can pull that off, just makes the game more fun for fans up top. All these modern ones are built more straight up, really wouldn’t be a terrible seat in the house. Its literally only the 2nd MLB team to move in 52 years.
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Post by darko on Nov 18, 2023 20:39:21 GMT -6
Expos I believe. But just pointing to not necessarily the case for NBA.
The cities are a great basketball market, but for rich billionaires, where would you rather have a NBA suite, Vegas or Minnesota. And I’m sure investors would be more likely to line up for a new arena there.
Btw, I wonder how folks feel about all the talent in the NBA now that the Warriors dropped five, and people are already like the west is pretty open again.
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Post by levine on Nov 18, 2023 22:02:14 GMT -6
The owners want to share the expansion fees - which are massive compared to relocation money.
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Post by darko on Nov 20, 2023 12:39:18 GMT -6
This feels like it could linger some. I wonder how players feel about players maybe not being totally up front health wise. Maybe that has nothing to do with this but if you're KD and Book, seems like you'd be looking at him like WTF dude?
The team is calling the injury a “low back strain.” I’m told an assortment of issues has caused Beal discomfort and tightness in his back and, at points since the initial injury in training camp, Beal has dealt with nerve irritation from his back down to his legs. In three games this season, the three-time All-Star has averaged 17.3 points, 5.3 rebounds and 3.7 assists per contest, but he’s been out since a flare-up in his back hours before Wednesday’s game. We’ll continue to monitor Beal’s rehab progress and status as the weeks go along. The Suns (7-6) have won three in a row, including Sunday’s double-overtime win at Utah. – via Shams Charania, Zach Harper, Zach Harper and Shams Charania @ The Athletic
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Post by darko on Nov 21, 2023 10:41:19 GMT -6
I HODL for a bit, see if they can right the ship. The league is trying to get pieces to GS and Philly, but there is a fix. LaVine would really best be used more similar to how scorers were used when offense existed, which is to say your putting him in actions all around the floor d's have to react to. I have boycotted NBA games outside of Wolves because out of respect for my body, but maybe I'll check them out, see if I can locate a fix. The fix for all teams is how are you defending, and how are you generating shots? So if you're starting Vuc, and LaVine, you need d around them, and then I think you could have a DeRozan bonanza in that second group.
Think about Booker, we think of him as this amazing iso guy, but since Monty he's often getting the ball on the move, or getting screening stuff up top to create spacing. LaVine with Lonzo Ball would have been gangbusters (similar to what a healthy double R and LaVine might have looked like), but you still got to have some actions to get both the ball, and bodies moving.
Most don’t expect the Bulls to make a trade until at least mid-December after contracts that were signed this summer can be traded. A more realistic target is the Feb. 9 trade deadline. It often takes additional time to construct a trade for high-contract players, and Karnišovas has demonstrated numerous times that he’s patient in making a deal. – via Darnell Mayberry @ The Athletic
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Post by darko on Nov 21, 2023 15:08:48 GMT -6
The Pistons say Monte Morris (right quad strain) will be re-evaluated in 6-to-8 weeks after undergoing a PRP injection, while Bojan Bogdanović (right calf strain) has been cleared for a return to full contact. More NBA from me: marcstein.substack.com – via Twitter TheSteinLine
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Post by darko on Nov 22, 2023 12:23:40 GMT -6
Someone wants his value driven down. Anytime your moving this kind of money, "interest" is always limited. Only a handful of teams have cap, and assets to even work. 30 teams can't just add whoever, whenever they want. If he gets moved, I think Miami is among the more interesting options in place of Herro.
“My sense is the market is very limited right now. But I do think this will lead to a Zach LaVine trade I just think it’s an untenable situation that needs to be resolved.” – via Apple Podcasts
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Post by darko on Nov 22, 2023 12:39:58 GMT -6
A Beantown Brown swap is also interesting here.
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Post by levine on Nov 22, 2023 13:46:14 GMT -6
A Beantown Brown swap is also interesting here. Boston better be getting a ton of 1st round picks if they're downgrading to Zach or Herro.
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Post by darko on Nov 22, 2023 13:49:28 GMT -6
Brown’s money is equally scary, and with White, Holiday, Tatum, and Porzingis a little fire power on O from Zach is a plausible swap, especially if they and Brown are not vibing.
Was thinking Herro for Zach.
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Post by levine on Nov 22, 2023 13:55:02 GMT -6
Brown’s money is equally scary, and with White, Holiday, Tatum, and Porzingis a little fire power on O from Zach is a plausible swap, especially if they and Brown are not vibing. Was thinking Herro for Zach. Sure. But he's still worth way more than Zach or Herro. I also don't think Zach fits in well on a contending team. He's a classic empty stat guy. Zach for Herro is an interesting shuffling of the deck chairs. They're basically the same guy.
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