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Post by tmill720 on Oct 14, 2024 9:49:31 GMT -6
Yeah. The reality of the new financial system is that it does act like a "hard cap" where teams have to limit the number of big contracts. The Wolves just couldn't afford to extend Johnson AND give Naz his money while keeping Allen etc. Overall though, the Atlanta stuff extremely unlikely even if the Wolves got crazy and dealt Randle. The Randle for Allen thing is actually something that could happen at some point though IMO. They signed Allen to that extension when they did so that he could be traded. They know their 2 big thing is an open question given the particular skillsets each player has and as you mentioned, both teams seem more synergistic in their pairings after the deal. Naz and Allen is quite complementary. I think I'd make that swap right now even with Rudy still here. I think Allen is really good and while he's not Rudy on D, I'm not sure how much longer Rudy will be that guy. Allen is a step down defensively, but he's still really good there and his offense is what we want Rudy to be in that he can actually catch the ball. If Naz takes a step and Minott looks like a legit rotation guy, why not make this move? This still comes back to the 2nd apron penalties though. We're going to need to shed some salary at some point to get us out of the 2nd apron so we can simply aggregate players again. We'll need to consolidate some of the depth at some point, but can really only do that if we aggregate those guys or find ways to trade them for first round picks to use with a larger salary. Being deep is great, but those guys are much easier to come by than stars who fit Ant. This explains it nicely, but I think Randle/NAW will be the two that will have to go at some point... unless Randle is awesome for us and we decide to roll with more of an offensive/small ball approach with him and Naz in the frontcourt - then Rudy would be the one. But I would really find it hard to believe that we'd trade Rudy/Randle this season. More likely, NAW gets dealt at the deadline and there is enough playing time available for Minnott through typical injuries/rest. |
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Post by darko on Oct 14, 2024 10:39:16 GMT -6
Wolves had and still have until the trade deadline to get under the second apron, I think we are less likely to stay second apron now, because what would be the point? With Kat the idea was we're trying to get back to the WCF. I suppose there's still an outlier chance if say the West looks like the post all-star break east a season ago, but on paper I don't see how we get back. I'd take the Kings over us in a 7 game today. As always the injury roulette will weigh-in, may the odds be ever in our favor.
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Post by kingsxman on Oct 14, 2024 17:53:17 GMT -6
My guess is Steph’s like Love with he’s okay if they are winning as long as he’s getting his numbers, but everyone on the team takes a back seat to that. So then when like Klay, or Wigs can’t get going you go well Steph just just 1-7 that half from the three, don’t blame me! I can’t imagine he’d be fun to play with, teammates carry the workload, and he gets the primo shots. Never his fault when the lose, and all of the shine for an O that’s specifically designed to maximize his points tracker. They were successful but any of his contemporaries could be plugged in there, and the difference his points are spread differently. Really happy we tricked Kerr into pretending to be mad about the FOM rule change, because they are one of two teams the league bent over backwards for. Curry is probably one of the players who would be most fun to play with. Not sure why you hate him so much. He's probably one of the most valuable players of all time given he almost single-handedly changed how the game was played. He took 3>2 and then shot it up with steroids. Those Warriors teams were great and won 4 rings because of Curry. You had to, and still have to, pick him up at damn near 40 feet and you almost need 2 defenders. That opens up so much space for your offense to operate and opens up so many scoring and passing lanes for other guys. Curry revolutionized basketball on his own. Moving screens from Draymond and Pachulia and whatever big they had didn't make Steph. Steph is one of the best players of all time and the Warriors did great in drafting talent to fit him. My guess is if you put Steph on those losing Wolves teams, he'd probably be gone before you could say freedom of movement because of all the losing. Agree 100%. One thing about Curry: I dont think he makes it the whole year in GS. I have to believe they begin to realize that they need to blow it up and get Steph to agree to a trade. I just had a sick feeling of OKC and all of those #1 picks...and Steph somehow going to OKC. |
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Post by darko on Oct 15, 2024 10:23:31 GMT -6
Curry to the Lakers makes the most sense, he can join LeBron and AD. Hard to imagine LeBron forcing his way to GS after making them draft his son. Path for Steph to the purple and gold is much easier.
I feel like one guy Ant really respects is Jaylen Brown. Perhaps some injury woes taking them out of contention, plus a new owner, maybe they are forced to move off their mega team.
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Post by levine on Oct 15, 2024 10:35:39 GMT -6
Curry to the Lakers makes the most sense, he can join LeBron and AD. Hard to imagine LeBron forcing his way to GS after making them draft his son. Path for Steph to the purple and gold is much easier. There is no easy path to get Curry's massive contract onto LA. The only thing I could get on the Trade Machine to work was Steph for Russel, Hachimura, Reaves, Hood-Schifino and Wood. Why does GS do that? And how does LA fill out their roster - especially with 2nd apron penalties. |
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Post by kingsxman on Oct 15, 2024 10:39:51 GMT -6
Curry to the Lakers makes the most sense, he can join LeBron and AD. Hard to imagine LeBron forcing his way to GS after making them draft his son. Path for Steph to the purple and gold is much easier. I feel like one guy Ant really respects is Jaylen Brown. Perhaps some injury woes taking them out of contention, plus a new owner, maybe they are forced to move off their mega team. Curry to the Lakers makes no sense. What are the Lakers supposed to use to get him? The Hollywood sign? They got nothin. |
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Post by darko on Oct 15, 2024 11:51:30 GMT -6
It would be Steph saying I want to play with LeBron. Would take best two remaining picks, young talent. It is do-able, though not easy, might have to include Reeves.
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Post by levine on Oct 15, 2024 11:55:45 GMT -6
It would be Steph saying I want to play with LeBron. Would take best two remaining picks, young talent. It is do-able, though not easy, might have to include Reeves. So their 2029 and 2031 first round picks, plus Russell, Hachimura, Reaves, Hood-Schifino (or Knecht) and Wood? Steph can say whatever he wants, but he just signed another extension in August, so he is locked up for 3 years with no options. |
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Post by darko on Oct 15, 2024 14:00:56 GMT -6
Steph would be able to go if he wants.
Also what other team is trading for Steph at his salary, at this point in his career? It is not a 30 team market. Is there one other team? OKC going to tie up their salary they are plotting out for Williams and Chet. Maybe if one of those guys get hurt, they could flip with all their picks, but seems short sighted.
LeBron and Steph have been flirting since Olympics. I think it's legit in the cards pending how both teams start the year.
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Post by darko on Nov 1, 2024 2:32:55 GMT -6
According to trade machine Naz for Black works. Wolves space off paying black for a couple seasons, fill Naz minutes with Garza, Minott, Miller. We have a fanny pack night, to undo the damage of beach night in fans minds, and try to find a cheap d center around d league somewhere. Or Kessler for Naz. Would Jazz do?
Not would Wolves fans rather do, but objectively Wolves should take either, or a flier one so far a mostly injured Mark Williams though that was likely somewhat padded but once Hornets decided to shoot for a high lotto pick.
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Post by kingsxman on Nov 1, 2024 16:21:48 GMT -6
I think it was Nancy Reagan that said "Just say NO to trading Naz Reid. Ever!"
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Post by Nick K on Nov 1, 2024 22:45:29 GMT -6
I think it was Nancy Reagan that said "Just say NO to trading Naz Reid. Ever!" Naz was particularly great tonight. He came through when it counted most. |
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Post by kingsxman on Nov 2, 2024 9:33:19 GMT -6
I think it was Nancy Reagan that said "Just say NO to trading Naz Reid. Ever!" Naz was particularly great tonight. He came through when it counted most. I think Naz has something that a lot of player lack: hating to lose. He is always giving 100% effort. He just makes plays. |
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Post by darko on Nov 4, 2024 13:17:46 GMT -6
It's about two initiators, whether that's two guards, or guard forward, and can mean a big that needs doubling like we're seeing a bit with Randle.
I would guess that's Miller in a couple years, Luka and Ky seem like the guard, guard thing, but Luka's also like LeBron in that essentially he's in the body of a big.
LeBron and Luka are such unique players in that they are sort of both, I always thought that was why Love got displaced or turned into a Duncan Robinson type, LeBron was sort of both PG and PF.
Boston lucking into Holiday, to add to White, Brown and Tatum completely, and all of the injury luck, is why that thing poppped. It was not functioning the same with with Brown and Tatum as primary initiators, or at least when it's Smart, Brown, Tatum.
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