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Post by levine on Dec 19, 2023 16:31:55 GMT -6
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Post by kingsxman on Dec 19, 2023 18:08:53 GMT -6
Cant wait for the game. Its my wifes Birthday tomorrow but I hope we can make some time to watch this. Otherwise, I end up starting the game at 10:00.
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Post by WolvesLife on Dec 19, 2023 20:57:59 GMT -6
Will Embiid find a way to cop out? Seems like he doesn't like to show up when the big man on the other team might be a challenge for him (especially with Jokic)
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Post by XRaySpecs on Dec 20, 2023 9:44:16 GMT -6
I'm excited to see the Wolves play a team as good as Philly that has their stars healthy on the road. Philly has the best point differential in the league although a lot of that is just pummeling bad teams. Still, they're really good and Embiid is playing at MVP level again. Maxey has made a leap. They're top 10 in both offense and defense (possibly top 5?). Should be a great test.
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Post by levine on Dec 20, 2023 10:58:22 GMT -6
Will Embiid find a way to cop out? Seems like he doesn't like to show up when the big man on the other team might be a challenge for him (especially with Jokic) He's been dealing with a minor hamstring issue, so he has an out...
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Post by levine on Dec 20, 2023 10:59:06 GMT -6
I'm excited to see the Wolves play a team as good as Philly that has their stars healthy on the road. Philly has the best point differential in the league although a lot of that is just pummeling bad teams. Still, they're really good and Embiid is playing at MVP level again. Maxey has made a leap. They're top 10 in both offense and defense (possibly top 5?). Should be a great test. 1st in offense, 5th in defense and the only team better in 3rd quarters than we are. We can NOT afford another slow start and expect to make it all back in the 3rd.
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Post by quinn on Dec 20, 2023 11:15:06 GMT -6
I'm excited to see the Wolves play a team as good as Philly that has their stars healthy on the road. Philly has the best point differential in the league although a lot of that is just pummeling bad teams. Still, they're really good and Embiid is playing at MVP level again. Maxey has made a leap. They're top 10 in both offense and defense (possibly top 5?). Should be a great test. They're incredible this year. Much better than I thought they would be. I guess losing Harden is really the best example of addition by subtraction you could get. Maxey is one of my favorite players in the league to watch as well. Loved him in the draft but he's become far better than I ever thought he would. It's going to be a fun game tonight.
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Post by kingsxman on Dec 20, 2023 11:26:08 GMT -6
Will Embiid find a way to cop out? Seems like he doesn't like to show up when the big man on the other team might be a challenge for him (especially with Jokic) He's been dealing with a minor hamstring issue, so he has an out... If he sits at least, it would be at Philly...and not at Minnesota. I think I've made clear my stance on fans not getting to see the stars when they come to Target center.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 17:36:57 GMT -6
I think Embiid's going tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 19:47:24 GMT -6
This game goes as Embiid is whistled, he should have minimum two more fouls on that first half Ant dunk attempt and his offensive shoulder into Rudy.
Great O by McD, but again, it’s been a nice team effort up and down.
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Post by levine on Dec 20, 2023 19:53:42 GMT -6
Even Shaq didn't get the whistle that Embiid does. You can't play defense against him. It's not allowed.
No idea why the NBA has made him the chosen one.
Only good thing is the NBA doesn't ref him the same way in the Playoffs, so he'll never win a title.
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Post by Nick K on Dec 20, 2023 20:02:45 GMT -6
Even Shaq didn't get the whistle that Embiid does. You can't play defense against him. It's not allowed. No idea why the NBA has made him the chosen one. Only good thing is the NBA doesn't ref him the same way in the Playoffs, so he'll never win a title. I could not agree more! It's even offensive.
NBA officials only slightly above pro wrestling officials. They are terrible. It could be so much better. The league has dropped the ball here. NOBODY at home or at the arena pays to see the officials blow their whistles. They are not the stars of the show. Eliminate all ticky fouls. Call the necessary ones to keep the game fair. It's not that tough.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 20:26:39 GMT -6
Yeah we’d have em’ over a series. Four quick fouls on Kat and Gob to start the game, we start getting some momentum in the 3rd and refs squash that, on top of Embiid is nowhere near foul trouble. Even if 76ers have multiple games of calls like this, it’s not going to happen for seven games.
Turnovers a bit high, but for the most part played well.
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Post by quinn on Dec 20, 2023 20:59:04 GMT -6
I can't stand watching Joel Embiid. He doesn't even play basketball at this point. He plays to get fouls, and the refs give it to him. I don't get it at all and it's infuriating to watch him flail around and get a foul called.
Fine to lose this game, especially with the way Maxey was cooking, but man, I'm frustrated about how Embiid gets reffed.
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Post by Nick K on Dec 20, 2023 22:04:17 GMT -6
Yeah we’d have em’ over a series. Four quick fouls on Kat and Gob to start the game, we start getting some momentum in the 3rd and refs squash that, on top of Embiid is nowhere near foul trouble. Even if 76ers have multiple games of calls like this, it’s not going to happen for seven games. Turnovers a bit high, but for the most part played well. Darko, it's so obvious and blatantly bad. And they get away with it!!
NBA leadership obviously condones it. That's a shame. It just hurts the game. A lot.
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Post by kingsxman on Dec 21, 2023 0:40:53 GMT -6
Just turned the game off at 3 minutes left. It was obvious that our wheels had come off. I hope Finch gave some guys rest at that point.
I was wondering what would happen if Finch just pulled our team from the game in the first half and forfeited to send a message to the league that teams wont put up with this shit with Embiid anymore. Its beyond ridiculous. How can NBA refs call themselves professionals and let that kind of crap go on? Then, to make matters worse, they don't call some pretty obvious fouls ON him on the other end.
Maddening. I feel for teams that have to play that joker 4x a year.
BTW, it seemed like we werent running any kind of offense. Lots of solo ball by Ant. I thought KAT played well. And why we stopped feeding Jaden in the 2nd half...no one knows. Also, I dont need to see Shake Milton on the floor again for a long time.
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Post by RAHchills on Dec 21, 2023 6:17:11 GMT -6
20 points on free throws and all he did was shoot from the elbow when Gobert was sagging off him a step in order to not “foul” him in the second half.
I remain unimpressed.
Loved when Jaden rose up on him. Didn’t love the no-call when Ant tried to dunk on him.
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Post by tmill720 on Dec 21, 2023 7:47:28 GMT -6
20 points on free throws and all he did was shoot from the elbow when Gobert was sagging off him a step in order to not “foul” him in the second half. I remain unimpressed. Loved when Jaden rose up on him. Didn’t love the no-call when Ant tried to dunk on him. My problem is that Embiid is actually so freaking good that he doesn't need these gift whistles. He absolutely could just power throw contact and finish, while also having great shooting touch. He can be just as effective if he just played basketball instead of seeking free throws. It's so dumb.
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Post by Bonecrusher on Dec 21, 2023 8:09:57 GMT -6
My wife was shocked at the foul language coming from me last night. F I was so pissed. 2 on KAT, 2 on Gobert and I believe 2 on Naz before the first qtr was done and nada on Embiid. I knew the game was lost then. And when calm and mild mannered Finch gets a technical you know shit is bad. Every single one of these refs should have their paycheck forfeit for the bullshit that happened last night.
And you always hear the counter "well the Wolves got calls to". BS. Game was decided in the 1st qtr by the refs. Giving us calls later in the game is meaningless.
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Post by jojo on Dec 21, 2023 8:24:59 GMT -6
Reminded me a bit of the New Orleans game with our big men getting in early foul trouble. I think our defense is built more to defend pick and roll game, and dominant inside players are more of a problem. Eventually Finch needs to figure out a better strategy but that’s a playoff issue. As Levine said the fouls are called less which will help.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 8:28:25 GMT -6
I’m glad Rudy speaks out on this, so many years watching GS maul us, fans would just go well they’re just the better team. It’s not the final foul count, but when and where one team is getting called changes the entire game. And agree it also took us out of the Pels game. /photo/1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 9:13:55 GMT -6
What I'd be interested in is Vegas spread in both games. Can we predict how Wolves will get called based on that?
It's bizarre to see the ticky tack stuff they call for Embiid, while he just clobbers Ant on a dunk, and nada, but a lot that is FOM too. Or Steph diving to the ground after shooting three's. I don't think that gets cleaned up as long as we're in this era. Offense will continue to rule the day, unless they revert back to quality hoops. It's why no one can slow Ja, Haliburotn, or SGA. They drive toward you, you're backing up to avoid contact. Those times where they pump, pivot around, and have a wide open look at the hoop because d has to just kind of hop around them will never not be bizarre.
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Post by BIG BAD WOLF on Dec 21, 2023 9:22:15 GMT -6
What would happen if a team refused to defend a player when the refs call it like that? Just have all your players put their hands behind their back and step out of the way every time he catches the ball. He will dunk a few times, but after a while it will begin to look ridiculous... or just pull the starters out and send in the scrubs in the first quarter. Then send the starters to the locker room to make it crystal clear they will not play any minutes risking injury in a game the refs will not allow you to have a fair chance of winning. The league will take notice if stuff like that happens! People in the stands will not be happy shelling out money to watch that either...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 9:38:03 GMT -6
I like the idea of a team just shelving guys for the 4th, but obviously the league would not have any of that. If we're not allowed to defend someone might as well load manage. And then it's funny to see headlines like Embiid's statement game, like he dominated Rudy and Kat.
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Post by Nick K on Dec 21, 2023 10:12:23 GMT -6
From Jake Paynter's player ratings from the Philly game:
Shake Milton: 1/10
What the (I have a potty mouth) is he doing back out there again? ----------------- I love it. I must say I was wondering that too. :)
Shake has been a HUGE disappointment. Maybe even worse than my guy Nowell who I had high hopes for.
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