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Post by kingsxman on Aug 25, 2018 13:33:54 GMT -6
So honestly, this is more of a test post to see which site will become my main site since Twolves central is shutting down. But I think its a fair question.
Joerger is still a guy I like but his hot mess in Sacremento will probably keep him around another year. I'd like to see a younger coach get a chance to start something fresh here. I'm not opposed to Becky Hammond either. But honestly, I dont know how good she really is. I dont care if the next coach is male or female...I just want someone other than Thibs.
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Post by Bonecrusher on Aug 25, 2018 19:27:30 GMT -6
So honestly, this is more of a test post to see which site will become my main site since Twolves central is shutting down. But I think its a fair question. Joerger is still a guy I like but his hot mess in Sacremento will probably keep him around another year. I'd like to see a younger coach get a chance to start something fresh here. I'm not opposed to Becky Hammond either. But honestly, I dont know how good she really is. I dont care if the next coach is male or female...I just want someone other than Thibs. Joerger is the one I wanted originally instead of Thibs and agree I want someone other than Thibs. Thanks for joining up. Hope others do as well.
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Post by Nick K on Aug 25, 2018 21:30:19 GMT -6
I'm looking for a young bright Brad Stevens type to come in and utilize our talent. There has to be somebody out there like that?
Joerger would be O.K. It just goes to show that "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken bleep."
I'm fairly happy with our talent group over last year. Much more solid team fit.
Man, am I glad I've been able to put last season out of my mind.
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Post by Scorched on Aug 25, 2018 21:42:54 GMT -6
We need a good GM, not sure we've ever had one of those. That will take care of the coach problem and the bad free agent signings.
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Post by stretcharmstrong on Aug 26, 2018 5:33:56 GMT -6
Pitino?
Ha Ha
Someone young and a good mind for the game. We have never had that.
No more retreads.
Rob
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Post by levine on Aug 26, 2018 8:40:04 GMT -6
I love the idea of Hammond. Everyone associated with her raves about her, and it would be a complete 180 from how we always do things.
No more retreads. And absolutely no to Ryan Saunders.
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Post by kingsxman on Aug 26, 2018 10:43:20 GMT -6
I love the idea of Hammond. Everyone associated with her raves about her, and it would be a complete 180 from how we always do things. No more retreads. And absolutely no to Ryan Saunders. Honestly, I'm not as against Saunders as some. Mainly because he's a young coach who potentially deserves a chance. That being said..some of that "acceptance" may be a bit of an emotional connection to the name. I'm really curious to know how he is thought about in coaching circles and if he's still here because it was a requirement from Glen or if Thibs really does value him. (For the record I dont think Thibs listens to ANY of his coaches much).
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Post by levine on Aug 26, 2018 11:12:55 GMT -6
I love the idea of Hammond. Everyone associated with her raves about her, and it would be a complete 180 from how we always do things. No more retreads. And absolutely no to Ryan Saunders. Honestly, I'm not as against Saunders as some. Mainly because he's a young coach who potentially deserves a chance. That being said..some of that "acceptance" may be a bit of an emotional connection to the name. I'm really curious to know how he is thought about in coaching circles and if he's still here because it was a requirement from Glen or if Thibs really does value him. (For the record I dont think Thibs listens to ANY of his coaches much). I think if he wasn’t Flip’s kid, no one would be the least interested. He has no Head Coaching (or even lead assistant)experience, and it always sounded like he was the nepotism hire, while David Adelman was the kid with a bright future. it feels like it would not be a merit based hire, but one based solely on price and familiarity.
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Post by Bonecrusher on Aug 26, 2018 12:03:00 GMT -6
I love the idea of Hammond. Everyone associated with her raves about her, and it would be a complete 180 from how we always do things. No more retreads. And absolutely no to Ryan Saunders. Honestly, I'm not as against Saunders as some. Mainly because he's a young coach who potentially deserves a chance. That being said..some of that "acceptance" may be a bit of an emotional connection to the name. I'm really curious to know how he is thought about in coaching circles and if he's still here because it was a requirement from Glen or if Thibs really does value him. (For the record I dont think Thibs listens to ANY of his coaches much). Hammond would be interesting hire but I'm curious as to what she would bring. I know she was a pupil under Pop and if she brought his type of system I would be all for that but we also need that front office fixed. I know you are into metrics and they've been proven to be effective I just understand why Taylor wouldn't want to get some front office people that have a good mix of that plus just plain ole knowledge of the game who can look at a player and see they will be very good or they will just be a solid player.
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Post by levine on Aug 26, 2018 14:31:25 GMT -6
My thought with Hammond is the only way we likely hire her is if we first hire a progressive GM/POBO.
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Post by salty on Aug 26, 2018 15:13:38 GMT -6
Hire someone Towns aprroves of.
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Post by levine on Aug 26, 2018 16:46:08 GMT -6
Hire someone Towns aprroves of. Hire a good coach and Towns will approve.
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Post by wunderwolf on Aug 26, 2018 20:11:19 GMT -6
I think we need to get through the Jimmy FA drama, and see how the dust settles. Then, we can truly evaluate Thibs. The grass is not necessarily greener with new coach. Glen needs to move on, but ensure new owner is quality. At that point the new owner and MGMT can select a coach. we have had so much turnover with coaches a little stability may be good thing.. Despite Thib's obvious warts.
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Post by kingsxman on Aug 27, 2018 5:15:58 GMT -6
I think we need to get through the Jimmy FA drama, and see how the dust settles. Then, we can truly evaluate Thibs. The grass is not necessarily greener with new coach.Glen needs to move on, but ensure new owner is quality. At that point the new owner and MGMT can select a coach. we have had so much turnover with coaches a little stability may be good thing.. Despite Thib's obvious warts. I will say that my first preference is that Thibs works out. While I really dont like his coaching style, I dont think he's a bad person...and that means a lot to me. I wish he'd change but I may as well wish that the sun sets in the east. But I'm a wolves fan first and if the Wolves can "win it all" with Thibs I'm good. That being said.....I do not think that will be the case. The Butler drama and how it ends will be Thibs be all end all. We either find a way to make it work with Butler or he leaves and Thibsden is gone.
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Post by BIG BAD WOLF on Aug 27, 2018 9:28:31 GMT -6
Jim Pete might make a good coach one day. He is very even-keeled, relate-able, likable and most importantly knowledgeable. He is also very articulate and NOT a screamer...
Seeing how the Lynx imploded after he left them, one can't help but think it might have had something to do with him not being around. He might be that new Brad Stevens type guy, and Papa Glen might be comfortable enough to move in this direction.
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Post by Nick K on Aug 27, 2018 10:12:33 GMT -6
Jim Pete might make a good coach one day. He is very even-keeled, relate-able, likable and most importantly knowledgeable. He is also very articulate and NOT a screamer... Seeing how the Lynx imploded after he left them, one can't help but think it might have had something to do with him not being around. He might be that new Brad Stevens type guy, and Papa Glen might be comfortable enough to move in this direction.
I think the Lynx imploded due to players quickly aging and lack of depth. It seems like Simone Augustus and Whalen both fell off a cliff this year. Brunson was hurt while getting up in age too. Hopefully they can get some great free agents in key positions. Guard play killed the Lynx this year.
I like Jim Peterson and would go for him as coach. Alas, we're stuck with Thibs.
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Post by Nick K on Aug 27, 2018 10:20:04 GMT -6
I love the idea of Hammond. Everyone associated with her raves about her, and it would be a complete 180 from how we always do things. No more retreads. And absolutely no to Ryan Saunders. Honestly, I'm not as against Saunders as some. Mainly because he's a young coach who potentially deserves a chance. That being said..some of that "acceptance" may be a bit of an emotional connection to the name. I'm really curious to know how he is thought about in coaching circles and if he's still here because it was a requirement from Glen or if Thibs really does value him. (For the record I dont think Thibs listens to ANY of his coaches much). I've heard great things about Hammonds too. I wonder if the guys would accept her as a HC rather than an assistant. I'd pass on Saunders too but I'd still take him over Thibs.....
David Adelman is the young up and comer that I'd like to see too.
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Post by kingsxman on Aug 28, 2018 10:47:54 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of Jim Pete coaching because he's too valuable in the broadcast booth. I'd miss that far more than I'd like him as a coach...
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Post by tjstyles on Aug 28, 2018 14:18:52 GMT -6
I would actually like to see us give Hammond a shot. There are a lot of coaches that are "risky" that have quickly become some of the hottest coaches in the NBA. I feel like she could be the next one to do that. It is, of course, a risk, but I think we have found out that there is a pretty significant risk even with people with a pretty solid resume. And, it's not like she is some complete unknown that hasn't proven anything. She has good results to back her up. I also think our roster is young enough to accept her. Old school players might scoff, but I think the people on our roster today are pretty well adjusted, so I believe they would follow her. And, I think if Towns, Wiggins and Butler were in the coach's corner, the rest of the team would follow an animated cat for the coach.
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Post by cory on Sept 2, 2018 19:33:31 GMT -6
If we are in a situation where Glen is the face of the organization again, it will be interesting. The last time that was the case we somehow pushed away Dennis Lindsey and ended up with Kahn and Rambis. That's a terrifying thought.
I still think it will hold true that any firing of Thibs will lead to the classic 180 of hiring a player's coach and a more free wheeling coach. I would love Eric Musselman getting a shot at this point and he fits those descriptors.
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Post by jzwoopwoop on Sept 4, 2018 10:00:53 GMT -6
If we are in a situation where Glen is the face of the organization again, it will be interesting. The last time that was the case we somehow pushed away Dennis Lindsey and ended up with Kahn and Rambis. That's a terrifying thought. I still think it will hold true that any firing of Thibs will lead to the classic 180 of hiring a player's coach and a more free wheeling coach. I would love Eric Musselman getting a shot at this point and he fits those descriptors. Corey I have nothing of substance to add except that your avatar is just the best.
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Post by Nick K on Sept 4, 2018 11:07:30 GMT -6
If we are in a situation where Glen is the face of the organization again, it will be interesting. The last time that was the case we somehow pushed away Dennis Lindsey and ended up with Kahn and Rambis. That's a terrifying thought. I still think it will hold true that any firing of Thibs will lead to the classic 180 of hiring a player's coach and a more free wheeling coach. I would love Eric Musselman getting a shot at this point and he fits those descriptors. Hey Cory, for years I liked Eric Mussellman but at this point, I don't want anybody like his dad or his dad's protege Thibs. Besides, Eric is happy and doing great in college ball.
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Post by cory on Sept 4, 2018 12:17:39 GMT -6
If we are in a situation where Glen is the face of the organization again, it will be interesting. The last time that was the case we somehow pushed away Dennis Lindsey and ended up with Kahn and Rambis. That's a terrifying thought. I still think it will hold true that any firing of Thibs will lead to the classic 180 of hiring a player's coach and a more free wheeling coach. I would love Eric Musselman getting a shot at this point and he fits those descriptors. Hey Cory, for years I liked Eric Mussellman but at this point, I don't want anybody like his dad or his dad's protege Thibs. Besides, Eric is happy and doing great in college ball. I was too young to remember the Muss era. I know he was a yeller but wasn't he more of a player's coach? At least more well liked by players I believe. I think Eric wasn't particularly well liked in his first stint but I don't have a lot to go on with that opinion. Those were also really bad teams. Maybe I'm biased from hearing him on Barreiro and thinking college coaches are just naturally more player oriented. I feel like Eric is a lot softer than Thibs and has probably grown since his first coaching stints in the league. His style of play is what really intrigues me. If we can't get the most out of Towns with a Thibs like coach, I fully support making this a fun and gun team and letting him go crazy in that style.
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Post by cory on Sept 4, 2018 12:21:01 GMT -6
If we are in a situation where Glen is the face of the organization again, it will be interesting. The last time that was the case we somehow pushed away Dennis Lindsey and ended up with Kahn and Rambis. That's a terrifying thought. I still think it will hold true that any firing of Thibs will lead to the classic 180 of hiring a player's coach and a more free wheeling coach. I would love Eric Musselman getting a shot at this point and he fits those descriptors. Corey I have nothing of substance to add except that your avatar is just the best. lol, I had Don Draper on the old site because I just happened to be binging Mad Men when I realized you could have something. The current avatar may be the best summary of this franchise in one picture that you can come up with. When I found the picture the summary was "Things weren't great for the Wolves at this time."
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Post by kingsxman on Sept 4, 2018 13:13:04 GMT -6
Corey I have nothing of substance to add except that your avatar is just the best. lol, I had Don Draper on the old site because I just happened to be binging Mad Men when I realized you could have something. The current avatar may be the best summary of this franchise in one picture that you can come up with. When I found the picture the summary was "Things weren't great for the Wolves at this time." You know..I always wondered if that was Don Draper....or a really young picture of Mike Tice. LOL. It was too small to know for sure..
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