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Post by levine on Apr 3, 2024 12:25:44 GMT -6
Both teams on the back end of a back-to-back.
Raptors are clearly tanking as they're pretty much out of the Play-In and they need to pick in the Top 6 to keep their pick this year.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 3, 2024 12:33:50 GMT -6
Conley out tonight for rest.
Sounds like everyone else is in (sans KAT obviously).
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 3, 2024 12:40:32 GMT -6
Both teams on the back end of a back-to-back. Raptors are clearly tanking as they're pretty much out of the Play-In and they need to pick in the Top 6 to keep their pick this year. They're presently 2 games clear of Memphis for 6th and the Grizzlies have Detroit again. Not sure if they want to chance it, but they can win without hurting their draft position. I believe Quickley and Barrett are back from injury now. The Wolves clearly should and need to win this game. It's also likely that Toronto doesn't want to lose 20 straight or whatever to end the season and sees a back to back for the Wolves as a chance to win without messing up their draft. I think if the Wolves come out seriously that Toronto will likely fold, but if the Wolves give them a window, they may try to take it.
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Post by levine on Apr 3, 2024 12:58:59 GMT -6
I believe Quickley and Barrett are back from injury now. Apr 3: Barrett (knee) will miss Wednesday's game against the Timberwolves, Josh Lewenberg of TSN.ca reports.
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Post by tmill720 on Apr 3, 2024 13:56:44 GMT -6
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 3, 2024 14:30:15 GMT -6
Ok then. Scratch what I said before. Toronto is tanking this game as well. Hopefully we can oblige them and get into whynot Minott time sooner than usual. I've actually been pretty disappointed with our garbage time minutes when they've happened this season. The defense is non existent when the end of the bench plays. I get that having Garza in those minutes sets the stage for bad D, but I hoped for more spark from Minott and Miller in that regard. It would be nice to get out to a lead and put the game away. Or...maybe try sprinkling in a Minott or Miller in with some of the regulars to try to limit minutes that way?
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Post by tmill720 on Apr 3, 2024 14:54:21 GMT -6
Ok then. Scratch what I said before. Toronto is tanking this game as well. Hopefully we can oblige them and get into whynot Minott time sooner than usual. I've actually been pretty disappointed with our garbage time minutes when they've happened this season. The defense is non existent when the end of the bench plays. I get that having Garza in those minutes sets the stage for bad D, but I hoped for more spark from Minott and Miller in that regard. It would be nice to get out to a lead and put the game away. Or... maybe try sprinkling in a Minott or Miller in with some of the regulars to try to limit minutes that way? That's what I would want to see. When a team is up 20 or 30, they're just not going to concentrate fully - it's more about getting stats. Get those guys some minutes during the part of the game that actually means something!
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Post by Nick K on Apr 3, 2024 19:57:19 GMT -6
Man, we're really putting it on these guy!! Up by 38!! We've got the subs in with 7 min to go.
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Post by Nick K on Apr 3, 2024 21:30:30 GMT -6
Monte Morris had a nice game for us tonight. He's a great fit here going forward.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 3, 2024 21:44:39 GMT -6
Wow. That was not an NBA team that we beat.
Nice to see some 3s go in for Ant.
Naz just continues to impress. Another thing to consider with him is that he's improved differnt aspects of his game every year. He improved his shooting and D this year. Does he add play making next year?
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 3, 2024 21:49:03 GMT -6
Monte Morris had a nice game for us tonight. He's a great fit here going forward. Yep. He's a very steady player and his D is better than I expected. I hope we can bring him back. We'll have a hard replacing what Conley is giving the team right now, but my hope is that we can platoon Morris and NAW as our PG with Ant continuing to grow as a play maker.
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Post by Nick K on Apr 3, 2024 23:50:20 GMT -6
Monte Morris had a nice game for us tonight. He's a great fit here going forward. Yep. He's a very steady player and his D is better than I expected. I hope we can bring him back. We'll have a hard replacing what Conley is giving the team right now, but my hope is that we can platoon Morris and NAW as our PG with Ant continuing to grow as a play maker. That would be the ideal.
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Post by jojo on Apr 4, 2024 5:34:37 GMT -6
He’s not taking the minimum which is all they’ll have available to minimize tax. Unless of course KAT is traded.
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Post by stretcharmstrong on Apr 4, 2024 5:59:44 GMT -6
Was that a record win? In regards to point differential? A 48 point win.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 4, 2024 6:01:29 GMT -6
He’s not taking the minimum which is all they’ll have available to minimize tax. Unless of course KAT is traded. Yes? As a 2nd apron team, we'll only have the minimum to sign FAs. And yes, the filling out the roster with minimum guys would be the way to keep the tax down, but the Wolves could sign Morris for more than the minimum with Bird rights. It's the trap we're in going forward. Kyle Anderson, JMac, Morris are all guys we could bring back, but the costs would be high financially even though it's possible. If we let them go though we can't replace them with anything but minimum salary FAs.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 4, 2024 6:02:00 GMT -6
Was that a record win? In regards to point differential? A 48 point win. I think they beat the Bulls by like 51 in 2001.
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Post by kingsxman on Apr 4, 2024 9:09:36 GMT -6
He’s not taking the minimum which is all they’ll have available to minimize tax. Unless of course KAT is traded. Yes? As a 2nd apron team, we'll only have the minimum to sign FAs. And yes, the filling out the roster with minimum guys would be the way to keep the tax down, but the Wolves could sign Morris for more than the minimum with Bird rights. It's the trap we're in going forward. Kyle Anderson, JMac, Morris are all guys we could bring back, but the costs would be high financially even though it's possible. If we let them go though we can't replace them with anything but minimum salary FAs. The nice thing is that we've got the ownership thing all figured out so we know who will be paying that luxury tax and that they are willing to do it. oh.....wait....maybe not. Trade KAT. Then we dont have to worry about it.
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Post by salty on Apr 4, 2024 12:56:05 GMT -6
Trade KAT. Then we dont have to worry about it. That's great, but we still have to take back $50 million in salaries don't we?
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Post by kingsxman on Apr 4, 2024 13:06:44 GMT -6
Trade KAT. Then we dont have to worry about it. That's great, but we still have to take back $50 million in salaries don't we? Yeah, thats the sticker of the whole deal. You dont have to take back 50 but it either has to be within a certain % or you have to get a trade exemption from someone. But...you can get some expiring contracts to help make up that 50 million. That said, I'm not sure you can do that if you're going to be in the 2nd apron next year. I think that if you're in the apron at all, it counts for the whole year so potentially that means that we couldnt combine salaries to take back for KAT.
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Post by levine on Apr 4, 2024 13:13:34 GMT -6
Trade KAT. Then we dont have to worry about it. That's great, but we still have to take back $50 million in salaries don't we? Not if the team we're trading to is under the cap. For example, if we trade him to a team that is 25M under the cap, we on'y need to take back ~25M.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 4, 2024 13:44:18 GMT -6
I think that if you're in the apron at all, it counts for the whole year so potentially that means that we couldnt combine salaries to take back for KAT. I believe that it's the reverse. The Wolves as a 2nd apron team couldn't combine salaries to trade for a larger salary. We also couldn't take back more than we send out in trade. We could take back several smaller salaries that are less than KAT's $49M.
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Post by jojo on Apr 4, 2024 13:54:10 GMT -6
Wolves won’t be a second apron team till after the season next year. So none of that affects trades this off-season or even at the deadline. My thinking is it will be easier to move KAT at the deadline since he will have almost a year off his new extension plus the new TV contract will be kicking with a 10% increase in cap as well. But teams are always craving superstars so KAT could go in the off-season especially if he has a good playoffs.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 4, 2024 14:47:03 GMT -6
Not if the team we're trading to is under the cap. For example, if we trade him to a team that is 25M under the cap, we on'y need to take back ~25M. This is true, but that much $ could only happen if the deal is done in the offseason. I think the new CBA stipulates that teams must spend up to 90% of the cap before the season. With a cap of ~$141M, that would mean the most cap space a team could have once the season starts is around $14M.
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Post by levine on Apr 4, 2024 14:59:38 GMT -6
Not if the team we're trading to is under the cap. For example, if we trade him to a team that is 25M under the cap, we on'y need to take back ~25M. This is true, but that much $ could only happen if the deal is done in the offseason. I think the new CBA stipulates that teams must spend up to 90% of the cap before the season. With a cap of ~$141M, that would mean the most cap space a team could have once the season starts is around $14M. Even 14M off KAT's salary is no small amount. Especially with us operating as a 1st apron team.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Apr 5, 2024 6:55:11 GMT -6
This is true, but that much $ could only happen if the deal is done in the offseason. I think the new CBA stipulates that teams must spend up to 90% of the cap before the season. With a cap of ~$141M, that would mean the most cap space a team could have once the season starts is around $14M. Even 14M off KAT's salary is no small amount. Especially with us operating as a 1st apron team. 100% I'm just concerned that keeping KAT into next season means we can't afford to bring back Kyle, Morris, and JMac. The Wolves don't have an obvious top 10 player. We win with depth of talent and losing that will hurt.
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