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Post by XRaySpecs on Oct 6, 2024 20:21:54 GMT -6
Minott looked ready to rock. It's one game, but hopefully he gets a legitimate opportunity to earn a rotation spot.
Ingles at least looks like he's ready to step back from a rotation role based on what shape he's in. Never a good athlete, he looks like he's added another layer. Minott doesn't have Joe's floor game, but with Donte, we shouldn't need his playmaking as much.
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Post by cory on Oct 7, 2024 7:45:53 GMT -6
Minott looked ready to rock. It's one game, but hopefully he gets a legitimate opportunity to earn a rotation spot. Ingles at least looks like he's ready to step back from a rotation role based on what shape he's in. Never a good athlete, he looks like he's added another layer. Minott doesn't have Joe's floor game, but with Donte, we shouldn't need his playmaking as much. It would be completely fine to let Minott and/or TSJ win or lose their minutes and let Ingles play himself into a role if there is a need. That's the best outcome for this team. I would expect Miller to largely get Iowa minutes again and if Julius leaves, he gets first crack at the minutes next year depending on what happens with Minott's development. Leonard still really needs to smooth out his shot/footwork to become somewhat reliable, at least based on summer league action. Minott still has to be able to shoot 3's and be guardable even if it' s just 2-3 a night to start but getting Donte, Rob, and even TSJ reduces the need for him to become more than just threat from distance. If he can do the other things on this roster, he's probably a rotation guy at 33% from 3. |
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Post by quinn on Oct 7, 2024 8:36:34 GMT -6
Minott looked ready to rock. It's one game, but hopefully he gets a legitimate opportunity to earn a rotation spot. Ingles at least looks like he's ready to step back from a rotation role based on what shape he's in. Never a good athlete, he looks like he's added another layer. Minott doesn't have Joe's floor game, but with Donte, we shouldn't need his playmaking as much. It would be completely fine to let Minott and/or TSJ win or lose their minutes and let Ingles play himself into a role if there is a need. That's the best outcome for this team. I would expect Miller to largely get Iowa minutes again and if Julius leaves, he gets first crack at the minutes next year depending on what happens with Minott's development. Leonard still really needs to smooth out his shot/footwork to become somewhat reliable, at least based on summer league action. Minott still has to be able to shoot 3's and be guardable even if it' s just 2-3 a night to start but getting Donte, Rob, and even TSJ reduces the need for him to become more than just threat from distance. If he can do the other things on this roster, he's probably a rotation guy at 33% from 3. It'd be a huge win for Minott to be ready to go and earn minutes right now. He's still 2.5-3 years younger than TSJ which means there's still likely good upside with him. TSJ likely is what he is and will still probably need time to acclimate to the NBA. |
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Post by quinn on Oct 7, 2024 8:49:39 GMT -6
I still think that I would prefer a bench lineup without Ingles in it. I think during the regular season, if Minott continues this stretch, he can be a small ball 4 next to Naz and we can have a very switchable lineup. Between Rob, DDV, and Naz, I love the offense coming out of the second unit. I'd much rather see Minott be in the Kyle Anderson role than Ingles to get Minott more consistent run and to keep Ingles fresh. I think we could absolutely go 10 deep with Rob, DDV, NAW, Minott, and Naz.
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Post by cory on Oct 7, 2024 10:00:43 GMT -6
I still think that I would prefer a bench lineup without Ingles in it. I think during the regular season, if Minott continues this stretch, he can be a small ball 4 next to Naz and we can have a very switchable lineup. Between Rob, DDV, and Naz, I love the offense coming out of the second unit. I'd much rather see Minott be in the Kyle Anderson role than Ingles to get Minott more consistent run and to keep Ingles fresh. I think we could absolutely go 10 deep with Rob, DDV, NAW, Minott, and Naz. It may have been Dane or Kyle who mentioned this but if you think of the trade as Naz largely replaces most of what KAT gave you, Julius is actually upgrading your Kyle minutes as a playmaker while adding bucket getting and offense that is leaps and bounds above Kyle. Minott then can just be a jack of all trades bench guy who we have no real comp for. |
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Post by darko on Oct 7, 2024 10:30:04 GMT -6
The point Kyle was most needed in the Dallas series, in the half court.
Randle can get it and go, and the more you have of those the better but there’s a lot of fours that can do that today. It was new like in 2010.
Halfcourt, point, teams have taken away the drive, that’s the main issue.
Our defense is fine top ten. We didn’t really need to do anything there. This is all about how do you get points in the half court one against good d, playoff d, and two especially after FOM now that defenders don’t just have to back run alongside Jimmy and have him plow through them at the rim for free throws.
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Post by levine on Oct 7, 2024 11:49:18 GMT -6
The point Kyle was most needed in the Dallas series, in the half court. Randle can get it and go, and the more you have of those the better but there’s a lot of fours that can do that today. It was new like in 2010. Halfcourt, point, teams have taken away the drive, that’s the main issue. Our defense is fine top ten. We didn’t really need to do anything there. This is all about how do you get points in the half court one against good d, playoff d, and two especially after FOM now that defenders don’t just have to back run alongside Jimmy and have him plow through them at the rim for free throws. Its also very much about our transition offense. We didn't really have guys that push the ball hard in transition last year. We left a ton of easy points on the floor. We potentially added 3 this offseason. |
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Post by darko on Oct 7, 2024 11:55:23 GMT -6
Def can improve with a point guard there.
I will be interested to see Randle and Finch on O, combined with what is O now that d has come back some.
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Post by levine on Oct 7, 2024 12:06:22 GMT -6
Def can improve with a point guard there.I will be interested to see Randle and Finch on O, combined with what is O now that d has come back some. Its one of Randle's biggest strengths. |
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Post by araxen on Oct 11, 2024 17:14:33 GMT -6
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Post by levine on Oct 11, 2024 17:22:15 GMT -6
I think its precautionary. |
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Post by jojo on Oct 12, 2024 7:54:28 GMT -6
Continue to like what I’m seeing from RD. Was having a crappy shooting night but was still throwing dimes all over the place and being scrappy on D. Mike should help him figure that end out eventually since they are the same size. Liked that he ended up with a dagger 3 and another bucket to seal it.
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Post by XRaySpecs on Oct 12, 2024 8:30:59 GMT -6
I watched much of the game vs. the Sixers.
In general, the ball and player movement seemed to be increased so far this year although Ant still stops it more than you'd like. Obviously playing without Rudy and Randle lends itself to stylistic changes, but the number of 3s taken is still encouraging.
Dillingham is certainly a guy who makes things happen offensively when he's out there. The shot wasn't falling, but the passing continues to be good for a 19 yo rookie IMO. I didn't focus on his D though.
Minott continues to impress. He just looks more mature out there.
Jaden looked more aggressive as well. Without 2 bigs, Jaden saw time at the 4 and those lineups with Naz at the 5 had lots of pace and ball movement.
Naz had a tough matchup vs. Drummond. He needs to rebound better, but that's hard in that matchup. Naz was effective offensively though.
I continue to be underwhelmed by Joe Ingles. I know he's not an athlete, but he looks like he may have lost whatever he had that kept him playable. Hopefully he'll work his way into slightly better shape.
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Post by quinn on Oct 12, 2024 8:41:36 GMT -6
I watched much of the game vs. the Sixers.
In general, the ball and player movement seemed to be increased so far this year although Ant still stops it more than you'd like. Obviously playing without Rudy and Randle lends itself to stylistic changes, but the number of 3s taken is still encouraging.
Dillingham is certainly a guy who makes things happen offensively when he's out there. The shot wasn't falling, but the passing continues to be good for a 19 yo rookie IMO. I didn't focus on his D though.
Minott continues to impress. He just looks more mature out there.
Jaden looked more aggressive as well. Without 2 bigs, Jaden saw time at the 4 and those lineups with Naz at the 5 had lots of pace and ball movement.
Naz had a tough matchup vs. Drummond. He needs to rebound better, but that's hard in that matchup. Naz was effective offensively though.
I continue to be underwhelmed by Joe Ingles. I know he's not an athlete, but he looks like he may have lost whatever he had that kept him playable. Hopefully he'll work his way into slightly better shape.
If Rob is as far along passing as he already seems to be, that's a major win for the Wolves IMO. I think the shot making could always be something that's streaky and he may struggle for a while to score around the rim while he (hopefully) puts on some mass. But if he can consistently be finding guys in the flow of the offense and play unselfishly, he'll have a role and be a guy Finch will love. The playmaking is typically what takes PGs longer to master, but with Conley as his vet and with the chops he's already showing he's got, we may have a real offensive threat brewing with Dilly. Also, I know Maxey is much heavier, but they didn't look that far off in size based on some of the pictures I've seen post game. Either Maxey has gotten real lean or Rob may not be as small as I thought. |
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Post by kingsxman on Oct 12, 2024 9:15:17 GMT -6
Unfortunately I couldnt see the game. Comcast said it dvr'd it...and it said it was the Timberwolves...but the actual game was Washington vs someone else. That sucked.
Glad to hear Dilly still looking good. I am a bit concerned about the thought that Ant can still be a ball stopper. I really am hoping that he'll buy in to the offense and keep the ball moving and trust that it'll come back to him. But I'm a bit afraid that once Randle is in the mix that we'll have 2 ball stoppers.
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Post by Nick K on Oct 12, 2024 9:15:38 GMT -6
I watched much of the game vs. the Sixers.
In general, the ball and player movement seemed to be increased so far this year although Ant still stops it more than you'd like. Obviously playing without Rudy and Randle lends itself to stylistic changes, but the number of 3s taken is still encouraging.
Dillingham is certainly a guy who makes things happen offensively when he's out there. The shot wasn't falling, but the passing continues to be good for a 19 yo rookie IMO. I didn't focus on his D though.
Minott continues to impress. He just looks more mature out there.
Jaden looked more aggressive as well. Without 2 bigs, Jaden saw time at the 4 and those lineups with Naz at the 5 had lots of pace and ball movement.
Naz had a tough matchup vs. Drummond. He needs to rebound better, but that's hard in that matchup. Naz was effective offensively though.
I continue to be underwhelmed by Joe Ingles. I know he's not an athlete, but he looks like he may have lost whatever he had that kept him playable. Hopefully he'll work his way into slightly better shape.
I agree with pretty much everything here. Ingles looks old and slow to me. Maybe he had too many beers in the off season? Just kidding. How about Garza? Not a bad night for him.
Check this out. There is good stuff here. Finch is updating the offense!
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Post by Nick K on Oct 12, 2024 9:18:12 GMT -6
Unfortunately I couldnt see the game. Comcast said it dvr'd it...and it said it was the Timberwolves...but the actual game was Washington vs someone else. That sucked.
Glad to hear Dilly still looking good. I am a bit concerned about the thought that Ant can still be a ball stopper. I really am hoping that he'll buy in to the offense and keep the ball moving and trust that it'll come back to him. But I'm a bit afraid that once Randle is in the mix that we'll have 2 ball stoppers. Same thing happened to me. Very disappointing. I bot their streaming ap for $19.99 a month and it seems to work OK. No excuse not to air the Wolves game last night. |
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Post by darko on Oct 12, 2024 9:33:20 GMT -6
Unable to catch last night but I doubt the 76ers even knew where they were or why.
I will catch tomorrow game though.
One thing that’s interesting to me is of the pre-season games I have caught bits (none Wolves other than highlights) is all teams appear to be sprinting in a way that seems unsustainable if you’re playing more than a quarter or half, let alone 82 games. A little like Joker looked in the playoff series for a few games. It's like all O was on FF mode across the board with little resistance.
D is not on for most teams, although there was a play where Murray prevented Steph in a drive using his body to keep in front of him. That was not possible the previous six years. There was a similar play a year ago before the adjust meant where Aaron Gordon has to just let him back away and let him drive around him because you couldn’t have any contact as a defender. So here’s hoping.
Wolves are not trying to figure out O against regular season fluff, or pre-season d, it's what is the O against that half court Dallas team? That's what has needed to be solved for several years now.
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Post by quinn on Oct 12, 2024 10:10:52 GMT -6
Dillingham so far this preseason has 13 assists to 1 TO. Pretty darn good start.
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Post by levine on Oct 12, 2024 10:45:33 GMT -6
I like how aggressive McDaniels was at PF. He was very active slashing and rolling to the hoop. 6 Boards in 24 minutes was great as well.
And while Naz is definitely a big wing now, his passing is something that really could help us in minutes as a "5 out" center.
If Minott hits, that's huge for the future.
Dilly is not a combo guard. He's a scoring PG. He has 13 assists vs 1 turnover through 2 games. And he doesn't pick up assists just from swinging the ball. The kid has tremendous vision and instincts - and potentially a Top 5 handle in the league.
NAW should never be a primary ballhandler. I really think he's going to lose a lot of minutes to Donte.
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Post by Nick K on Oct 12, 2024 14:20:07 GMT -6
I like how aggressive McDaniels was at PF. He was very active slashing and rolling to the hoop. 6 Boards in 24 minutes was great as well. And while Naz is definitely a big wing now, his passing is something that really could help us in minutes as a "5 out" center. If Minott hits, that's huge for the future. Dilly is not a combo guard. He's a scoring PG. He has 13 assists vs 1 turnover through 2 games. And he doesn't pick up assists just from swinging the ball. The kid has tremendous vision and instincts - and potentially a Top 5 handle in the league. NAW should never be a primary ballhandler. I really think he's going to lose a lot of minutes to Donte. The great thing about McD is he just gets better and better. I'm talking his entire game. And he can still get a lot better! Lets hope he's figuring out how to keep from the silly fouls.
I'm loving NAW less than ever since his disastrous playoff performances. You're right that he shouldn't be a primary ball handler. Dante should be that guy no doubt. Man, Dante has looked good.
Ingles has much to show me. I have my doubts. Some people think Naz could start at center but I'm not seeing it. If Rudy were hurt that is. I'm not sold on Naz against other teams best players.
Dilly, Dante, Naz, and Shannon really have me excited about our 2nd unit. I'm loving our mix and match parts.
I've heard some things about the refs not calling things so close this year. I'd be overjoyed about that. Let them play! Have you heard anything about that? That's a question for all.
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Post by quinn on Oct 13, 2024 8:52:44 GMT -6
I like how aggressive McDaniels was at PF. He was very active slashing and rolling to the hoop. 6 Boards in 24 minutes was great as well. And while Naz is definitely a big wing now, his passing is something that really could help us in minutes as a "5 out" center. If Minott hits, that's huge for the future. Dilly is not a combo guard. He's a scoring PG. He has 13 assists vs 1 turnover through 2 games. And he doesn't pick up assists just from swinging the ball. The kid has tremendous vision and instincts - and potentially a Top 5 handle in the league. NAW should never be a primary ballhandler. I really think he's going to lose a lot of minutes to Donte. Getting Donte I think makes NAW extremely expendable as a trade chip. I don't really see how he signs his next contract here as Dilly and Donte are pretty penciled into the future of the team. Question then becomes what is he actually worth? He's got a great expiring contract at $4.3 mil. Could he be packaged with the Detroit first and Randle to get something decent? |
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Post by kingsxman on Oct 13, 2024 9:54:41 GMT -6
I like how aggressive McDaniels was at PF. He was very active slashing and rolling to the hoop. 6 Boards in 24 minutes was great as well. And while Naz is definitely a big wing now, his passing is something that really could help us in minutes as a "5 out" center. If Minott hits, that's huge for the future. Dilly is not a combo guard. He's a scoring PG. He has 13 assists vs 1 turnover through 2 games. And he doesn't pick up assists just from swinging the ball. The kid has tremendous vision and instincts - and potentially a Top 5 handle in the league. NAW should never be a primary ballhandler. I really think he's going to lose a lot of minutes to Donte. The great thing about McD is he just gets better and better. I'm talking his entire game. And he can still get a lot better! Lets hope he's figuring out how to keep from the silly fouls.
I'm loving NAW less than ever since his disastrous playoff performances. You're right that he shouldn't be a primary ball handler. Dante should be that guy no doubt. Man, Dante has looked good.
Ingles has much to show me. I have my doubts. Some people think Naz could start at center but I'm not seeing it. If Rudy were hurt that is. I'm not sold on Naz against other teams best players.
Dilly, Dante, Naz, and Shannon really have me excited about our 2nd unit. I'm loving our mix and match parts.
I've heard some things about the refs not calling things so close this year. I'd be overjoyed about that. Let them play! Have you heard anything about that? That's a question for all.
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Post by kingsxman on Oct 13, 2024 9:58:54 GMT -6
I like how aggressive McDaniels was at PF. He was very active slashing and rolling to the hoop. 6 Boards in 24 minutes was great as well. And while Naz is definitely a big wing now, his passing is something that really could help us in minutes as a "5 out" center. If Minott hits, that's huge for the future. Dilly is not a combo guard. He's a scoring PG. He has 13 assists vs 1 turnover through 2 games. And he doesn't pick up assists just from swinging the ball. The kid has tremendous vision and instincts - and potentially a Top 5 handle in the league. NAW should never be a primary ballhandler. I really think he's going to lose a lot of minutes to Donte. Getting Donte I think makes NAW extremely expendable as a trade chip. I don't really see how he signs his next contract here as Dilly and Donte are pretty penciled into the future of the team. Question then becomes what is he actually worth? He's got a great expiring contract at $4.3 mil. Could he be packaged with the Detroit first and Randle to get something decent? So define "decent". What do we need? Right now I dont think we know until we see Randles fit. I also think the big Ragu will take minutes from NAW but I doubt he's as good of a defender as NAW. I think there is a place for both on the team given that its a long season. I'd actually prefer to see NAW be a little less important right now and sign an undervalue contract because of it and stay with the team. Not sure that will happen (doubtful) but thats where I'm at. BTW, at 4.3 million, I'm not sure that i'd call that a "great" expiring. He' on an incredible contract that wont return matching salary value for whats going out. |
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Post by levine on Oct 13, 2024 10:03:55 GMT -6
I like how aggressive McDaniels was at PF. He was very active slashing and rolling to the hoop. 6 Boards in 24 minutes was great as well. And while Naz is definitely a big wing now, his passing is something that really could help us in minutes as a "5 out" center. If Minott hits, that's huge for the future. Dilly is not a combo guard. He's a scoring PG. He has 13 assists vs 1 turnover through 2 games. And he doesn't pick up assists just from swinging the ball. The kid has tremendous vision and instincts - and potentially a Top 5 handle in the league. NAW should never be a primary ballhandler. I really think he's going to lose a lot of minutes to Donte. Getting Donte I think makes NAW extremely expendable as a trade chip. I don't really see how he signs his next contract here as Dilly and Donte are pretty penciled into the future of the team. Question then becomes what is he actually worth? He's got a great expiring contract at $4.3 mil. C ould he be packaged with the Detroit first and Randle to get something decent?I don't think we can aggregate contracts to take back a bigger deal. It would have to be 2 separate deals. Randle for a player better than him making the same money and NAW for a player worse than him making similar money. |
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